Very unpleasant experience with Six Moon Design (SMD)

All SMD needs to do to remedy this situation is get some new product to market at an amazing new weight. Dispersions will be forgotten. Ounces outweigh PR.

Bases loaded. Frankle at the plate.

!!!!!!!!!

John Abela, you are such a Blatant "RonBoy" it clouds ur intelligence…

In closing the facts are simple, the Six Moon Designs “Skyscape X” shelter is the finest one-piece solo shelter I have ever encountered.

Then this…

I think there have only been around fifty of these things made so far. Except one that I sold early last year I have never seen one for sale anywhere. I got one sitting in my backpack, but not ready to give it up. Drop me a message in a few weeks after I see what SMD is announcing for their 2013 new product line-up.

Thanks for reading!

-Abela

(disclaimer: I purchased this product with my own money. It was not given to me. I am under no obligation to write this review.

Soooo, you paid retail from Ron for not one, but 2 tents, yet you sold one, and based on their 2013 offering(better designed, improved, etc) the other maybe for sale… Hmmmmm… If it walks like a fanboy, posts like a fanboy….

Abela does make a point about returning the net but not the tarp.

But i think it is reasonable to consider them a UNIT, even if bought seperatelt BUT at the same time. If one part of the unit is faulty, the whole unit is faulty especially considering the interwoven natue of the items.

High end Restaurants have been known to provide full refunds on whoe meals even though technically the items are listed seperately when something is not right, burnt steak, etc…

Why?

So posts like this dont happen.

Ablabela is one of the most qualified reviewers online. He buys multiples to check consistency ! Tens of thousands of dollars a year get pumped into the industry by John. He is an amazing resource. He is a genuine SUL resource, and has put together tables of shelter data out of pocket.

But yes, fanboy, of numerous brands.

–G.B.–

Ablabela is one of the most qualified reviewers online. He buys multiples to check consistency ! Tens of thousands of dollars a year get pumped into the industry by John. He is an amazing resource. He is a genuine SUL resource, and has put together tables of shelter data out of pocket. But yes, fanboy.

True. I admit it. I am a fanboy.

But let's just be clear here… I am a fanboy of almost *every* cottage industry company!

There are only three companies within the entire cottage industry that I have encountered over the last few years that I simply will not buy any gear from.

Do I stand up for the cottage companies out there? Heck yeah, and I have never made any claim against that. Do I take it to the excess sometimes? Yeah, I will totally admit to that too.

At the same time, I call BS when BS needs to be said.

Thanks for pointing out my truths and strengths GB, I appreciate the support.

(edit: woot, looks like I am lucky number for page 15!!!!)

It wouldn't have been possible without you!

John, I'm curious as to which 3 cottage companies you avoid.

Zorg, your dedication is also amazing. A custom meme! How avant-garde!

He only avoids the ones that don't offer him a discount.

John, I'm curious as to which 3 cottage companies you avoid.

Come on now Travis… this post is not about trash talking cottage companies!!

I honestly didn't mean it to trash talk them; just curious that's all. You have waaaaaayyyyy more experience with gear than I do, so it piqued my interest.

There's enough trash talking on this thread as it is…

Crap, did I just contribute to the TT'ing?

After 15 pages, anything is fair game

LOL well said guys, well said.

comedy central

ps:

I would just like to thank the OP and all involved in this thread…

I have been wondering what in the hell it was going to take to get Ken to change back to his usual usersname and avatar!!

That alone we should all pat ourselves on the back for achieving as a group!

1. Zorg is a tool
2. Yang is about the most patient person in the world. He started the thread, but isn't the one keeping in going, but still takes the brunt of the criticism
3. Both sides are likely right in a way, but the public will almost always side with the customer because everyone what's dealt with poor customer service at some point
4. Abela (aka Lorax) is a fanboy, but still does great reviews
5. Zorg is a tool
6. SMD site has more legal jargon than my business law class
7. This thread isn't close to finished because we are all OCD about more than just pack weight

"So, what have we learned?"

That the site that was once the most civil of any I'd been on is now becoming like the rest. :(

Randy, as a whole,I think BPL still is a unique entity, but it is not immune to an errant thread.

That being said, I think everyone here owes everyone else a drink. Except me. Everyone owes me two drinks because I came up with the idea.

Sounds good Travis. Where do I send them?

Oh Randy, I promise you that BPL is still EXTREMELY civil compared to most other forums out there. We don't even have moderators here and 99.9999% of the threads here never even get close to this one. This thread looks like rainbows and lollipops compared to the majority of threads on the internet.

Ryan

"Oh Randy, I promise you that BPL is still EXTREMELY civil compared to most other forums out there."

No doubt Ryan, but it's sliding.

Randy! Brilliant! I literally am drinking a Dales stovepipe!

"I have been wondering what in the hell it was going to take to get Ken to change back to his usual usersname and avatar!! "

So true!

Don't tell me you are drinking alone again?

Guilty as charged.

Though, I need *something* to help me deal with the immense gravity of the BPL forums.