Introduction: what does moisture-wicking mean?
Moisture management is the process whereby fabrics enable perspiration (sweat) to move from our skin through our clothing layers and finally, into the environment.

It is a fraught journey with iterative rounds of condensation, evaporation, and even freezing throughout. Moisture-wicking is part of how this journey is accomplished.
Many of those who spend a lot of time working or recreating outdoors have made an effort to learn how to dress to try to achieve effective moisture management.
We typically accept that moisture-wicking clothing (including base layers and underwear) is the best way to accomplish moving sweat (moisture) away from the skin and into outer layers where it can evaporate. This process helps keep us comfortable and dry during cold weather.
The best moisture-wicking performance apparel is generally made with synthetic fabrics. While natural fibers including merino wool and cotton are used in some layers that are considered to be moisture-wicking, they aren’t optimal. In this article, we will focus on polyester base layers. In a future article, we will evaluate the performance of merino wool in comparison with polyester.
We know that moisture management does not always work very as we expect during high levels of exertion and cold weather. So we tolerate our moisture-wicking garments becoming wet (or even saturated). And we accept that dry skin and dry clothing layers may have to wait – until the next major innovation in moisture-wicking clothing is announced.
This article deals with the subject of wicking in base layer fabrics and specifically asks the question: how does moisture-wicking work?
When this article was initially conceived, the plan was to conduct wicking tests of many fabrics and garments to see how they compare. But, as I started looking at Polartec fabrics, I discovered discrepancies between marketing claims and the results of my moisture-wicking tests. So, I turned my attention to trying to investigate the accuracy of the marketing claims by adding two additional types of wicking tests and evaluating a larger variety of Polartec fabrics. After we discuss the fundamentals of wicking, this article focuses on the evaluation of Polartec fabrics and what was found.
The manufacturers of moisture-wicking garments claim their products deliver superior wicking performance. That is not necessarily so – wicking claims are like breathability claims. There can be a wide gap in the moisture-wicking performance of different fabrics just like there can be a wide range of breathability performance. Unfortunately, the consumer cannot know what they are buying unless they know how to test for it. In this article, I will describe how end users can conduct simple but useful wicking tests using a very low-cost device.
In this article, I will not dwell on the effectiveness of moisture-wicking as a tool to meet the goal of dry skin, dry clothes, and comfort. Rather, I will be discussing how moisture-wicking works and the abilities of specific Polartec fabrics (and a few non-Polartec fabrics) to move sweat away from the skin on its journey to the environment outside of our clothing. The effectiveness of wicking and alternative moisture management techniques to promote dry clothes and skin will be discussed in a future article.
How does moisture-wicking work?
Moisture-wicking is a process of immense importance in our lives. Without wicking, most plant life would not exist. From small shrubs to giant redwood trees, wicking transports water and nutrients from the ground to every portion of the plant structure including the tallest limbs and farthest leaves. Wicking makes candles burn. A candlewick, on its own, will burn and turn into ash in seconds. Paraffin wax, the main ingredient of candles, is made from hydrocarbons and is difficult to combust. However, by placing an absorbent fiber wick of the right diameter into a block of paraffin wax, you can sustain a flame for hours without burning the wick. In a candle, the wick is covered with wax. Upon lighting the wick, the wax melts and then vaporizes. The flame consumes vaporized wax, not the wick. The heat from the flame causes adjacent wax to melt and flow up the wick. As the melted, flowing wax nears the flame, it vaporizes to maintain the flame. All of this is due to wicking. Of course, wicking can also be a critical component in moving sweat away from our skin to a place it can evaporate, leaving our skin, in theory, dry.
To appreciate the wicking process, you need to understand the science of what supports wicking. In order to avoid putting readers to sleep with a technical explanation of this, I will turn to professionals in the following videos who provide easy-to-understand explanations of the processes involved and even provide a wick rap for those best served by earworms.
- Wicking Fiber Video – this video illustrates how moisture-wicking and capillary action works
- Moisture Wicking Clothing Explained – this video presents the relationship between capillary action and evaporation and how they work together to drive the wicking process in concert with both hydrophobic and hydrophilic fibers
Before going further, make sure you understand the concept of cohesion, which is the molecular electrical force that bonds water molecules into a drop, and adhesion, which is the molecular electrical force that bonds water molecules to non-water molecules (including fabric material fibers). If you’d like, watch the videos twice and absorb all the wicking goodness.
We have learned from the first video that water molecules have a slightly negative charge. They will be attracted to and cling to non-water molecules (fiber surfaces) that have a positive charge. The stronger the positive charge of the non-water molecule, the stronger will be the attraction of water molecules to non-water molecules.
We can see from the videos that wicking requires a capillary. A capillary can be an actual tube that is solid all the way around. A capillary can also be a construction that performs electrically like a tube, i.e., water molecules surrounded by molecules that are positively charged. In moisture-wicking fabrics, capillary tubes are formed by multiple parallel fibers within a yarn. In a moisture-wicking fiber, the yarns have multiple fibers whose spacing is maintained by twisting the fibers together. The tighter the twist, the smaller the spaces between the fibers. Tighter twists can support higher wicking pressure. It will move water farther along the capillaries. Looser twists can move larger volumes of water but for lesser distances. Figure 1 illustrates wicking fibers.

In Figure 1 we see yarns that are knitted together. The yarns consist of bundles of individual fibers. In this example, the bundles are somewhat loosely formed and contain minimal twisting. These yarns are designed to move large moisture volumes a short distance. This type of yarn is present in all of the face sides of the Polartec moisture-wicking fabrics examined in this article. The face side of the fabric is oriented away from the skin; the fabric side that is oriented toward the skin is called the back side or skin side).
Hydrophobicity vs. Hydrophilicity
Two more words mentioned in the videos must also be understood: hydrophobic and hydrophilic.
Hydrophobic (water-fearing) fabrics are water repellent. If you squirt a drop of water at a hydrophobic fabric, water beads on the surface and stays there, just like you see in the photograph at the beginning of this article. Hydrophobic fibers have a strong negative charge – they will repel negatively charged water molecules. Raw (untreated) synthetic fibers tend to be hydrophobic.
Hydrophilic (water-loving) fabrics are water absorbent. If you squirt a drop of water at a hydrophilic fabric, it will be absorbed into the fabric. Hydrophilic fibers will have a positive molecular charge and will attract water molecules. Cotton, wool, and other natural fibers tend to be hydrophilic.
Contact Angle
The degree of hydrophobicity and hydrophilicity will vary amongst fabrics. There is a continuum in water attraction to, or repulsion from, a solid material that is described by a concept called contact angle. Contact angle permits visualization of those forces by simply observing a drop of water applied to the surface.
When a drop of water is placed on a surface, the amount of adhesive force from the surface material determines the shape of the drop. If the surface is highly hydrophobic, the surface adhesive force is far weaker than the cohesive force of the water molecules forming the drop. In this case, the drop will be spherical or nearly spherical (the force of gravity can provide some flattening at the bottom of the drop).
If the surface is highly hydrophilic, the surface adhesive force is far stronger than the cohesive force of the water molecules forming the drop. In this case, the drop will flatten and spread out as the water molecules travel over one another to reach the highly adhesive surface molecules.
The difference in drop shape due to the strength of adhesive forces is described by the contact angle.
The figure below provides a Contact Angle diagram. In each case, the drop is red. The green line shows the contact angle that corresponds to the drop deformation due to the level of adhesion. Adhesion increases from Drop A to Drop C, so A is most hydrophobic, and C is most hydrophilic.

In general, a contact angle below 90° is considered hydrophilic and a contact angle above 90° is considered hydrophobic.
Let’s consider real-life examples in the photograph below:

The red fabric is a Neoshell fabric. It is treated with DWR to render its surface highly hydrophobic. As a result, the left drop of water is nearly spherical. The contact angle, viewed at the bottom of the drop, is well over 90°. The flattening at the bottom is due either to the force of gravity or a low level of adhesive force. One way to determine this is to invert the surface. If the drop remains attached, there is some adhesive force. If the drop slides off, the flattening is likely due to gravity.
The right drop is visibly flat. The contact angle is very low, perhaps 20°. We can see that this surface is hydrophilic. The water molecules show a high level of adhesion to the metal surface. In fact, I flipped the metal strip upside down and the drop remained in place! If you think metal is necessarily hydrophobic, think again.
It is not absorbent, but it need not be hydrophobic.
By observing contact angle from a drop applied to a garment, you can immediately have a good understanding of whether the surface is hydrophobic or hydrophilic. Below, we will discuss the concept of wetting. The flatter the drop, the faster wetting will occur and the more readily wicking will proceed. The rounder the drop, the slower wetting will occur and the greater the difficulty in supporting wicking.
Don’t expect contact angle to remain the same over the life of a garment. It is affected by contaminants, wash cycles, changes in surface roughness, and more.
The photograph at the beginning of this article is a Patagonia base layer made from Polartec Power Dry. It has been washed many times over the years. It is now hydrophobic. I doubt it started that way, but back then, I was not checking my garments’ hydrophobicity and hydrophilicity with a dropper.
Here are some typical contact angles for real surfaces: a paper towel or fabric with excellent wicking properties may have contact angles of 0°. A drop will never form – the water will be instantly absorbed. Untreated polyester might have a contact angle of around 74°. Extremely clean glass can be very hydrophobic with a contact angle approaching 160°
Chemical Fiber Treatments Can Modify Hydrophobicity and Hydrophilicity
Chemical treatments during fiber manufacturing can change the hydrophobicity or hydrophilicity of fibers, allowing the moisture-wicking ability of fabrics to be controlled. A nearly hydrophobic raw material, such as polyester, can be rendered highly hydrophilic with the right chemical treatment. On the other hand, some chemical treatments of cotton can produce a fabric that is very hydrophobic. And of course, we can engineer just about any level of hydrophobicity or hydrophilicity we want.
Moisture Regain and Fiber Moisture Content Capacity
An important characteristic of a hydrophilic material for moisture management is moisture regain. This is the amount of water, by weight of the fabric, that can be absorbed from moisture in the air. Moisture regain is typically very low for synthetic fibers (e.g., polyester is about 0.4% – source). In contrast, the moisture regain for natural fibers (which is dependent on relative humidity) ranges from about 8% to 27% (cotton) depending on relative humidity and about 16% to 30% (merino wool).
The moisture content capacity is the maximum amount of water, by weight of the fabric, that can be absorbed into the fiber. Synthetic fibers have moisture content capacities of 1% to 5%. Natural fibers such as merino wool absorb as much as 60%. of their weight as water into the fiber core.
Why is moisture regain and moisture content capacity important? The higher the moisture regain and moisture content capacity of a fiber, the more moisture will soak into the fibers. Wicking for moisture management is about getting rid of moisture from sweat. The higher the moisture regain or moisture content capacity of a fiber, the more moisture will enter the fiber and the longer it will take for the moisture to evaporate out of the fiber.
Very little moisture can enter a polyester fiber. If the wicking ability of polyester is enhanced through chemical treatment to become very hydrophilic on its surface, it can transport large amounts of moisture with almost no absorption into the fibers. Wool or cotton do not share this property. When wicking large amounts of moisture, a significant portion of the moisture will absorb into the fibers. As a result, drying time for cotton and wool can be substantial in comparison with polyester along with the risk of getting cold when you stop your activity.
It is important to understand the conditions that are necessary to start and maintain water distribution through wicking. Let’s assume that our fabric has sufficient hydrophilicity to support wicking. Before wicking can start, wetting of the fabric must occur. Wetting means that air which is in contact with the fabric surface is replaced with water. If wetting does not occur, wicking will not follow. To sustain wicking, wetting must be continuous. If wetting stops because the moisture supply ends, wicking will end. In order for wicking to occur continuously, evaporation of the water from the garment must also occur at least as fast as water is being moved by the wicking process. Evaporation causes water that is being wicked to leave the fabric. If evaporation does not occur fast enough, fibers will become saturated, and wicking will cease. At that point, you will end up with a wet wicking layer that may take a very long time to dry.
How We Tested
Permeation Kettle Wick & Dry Test
This is a test I developed in 2015. It utilizes my permeation kettles. The test is developed to simulate the interface between skin and fabric. It is a simple test to perform and interpret.
The kettle water is heated to 120 °F (49 °C). A sponge is soaked in 120 °F (49 °C) water and placed on a plastic tray. The weight of the soaked sponge and tray is determined. The sponge and tray are placed on the permeation kettle work surface. The test fabric is weighed and then placed over the top of the kettle. The fabric is pulled sufficiently tight to remove wrinkles. The bottom of the test fabric, which would normally be against the skin, is directly in contact with the wet sponge. The test operates for 1 hour. At the conclusion, the fabric is weighed, and the sponge/tray is weighed. We now calculate the loss of moisture in the sponge to determine how much water was transferred from the sponge into the test item. This is the quantity of water that was wicked. Next, we calculate how much moisture remains in the garment. Finally, we calculate how much water evaporated from the test garment as the test progressed. Evaporation is a critical metric. The more water that is eliminated, the better the fabric performance. Since we have calculated how much water remains in the test fabric at the end of the test, we get an idea of how much water is retained and how much risk might be posed at the end of an activity by using body heat to dry out our garment once our activity is concluded. This test directly addresses a number of issues relevant to our comfort that are not considered in many of the available wicking tests.
The thermal imager is used to produce a time-lapse video that shows the rate and extent of moisture spread due to wicking across the test fabric.
Figures 2 and 3 show the test setup.


Vertical Wicking Test
The vertical wicking test may be the most popular method of measuring wicking. It is very simple. Hang some fabrics strips into water. Water will travel vertically up the strips. After a predetermined amount of time, the strips are removed, and the travel distance is measured. The strip with the farthest travel is the winner. I have enhanced this test by using the thermal imager to produce a time-lapse video of the process. As wicking occurs, the surface temperature on the wet area drops due to evaporative cooling. The thermal imager allows progress to be easily seen for all fabrics. The wet area can be difficult to see visually on some fabrics. The thermal imager offers another benefit. Fabrics have a face and back. Wicking performance is not necessarily equal on the two. At the end of the test, I can flip the strips and check wicking on the other side. If wicking occurs predominantly on one side, that side will have lower surface temperatures than the poorly wicking side.
There are some problems with the vertical wicking test. The water source is an essentially unlimited reservoir in direct contact with the newly cut bottom fibers. With fibers sitting directly in water, there is no concern for fabric wetting performance – the fabric sample bottom is already sitting underwater so the issue of replacing air around the fibers with water is eliminated. Fabrics that exhibit poor wetting characteristics or uneven wicking on one side or the other will not be identified by the vertical wicking test. Wicking on one side or the other can produce the misleading appearance of excellent performance for the entire fabric. The wicking mechanism here has nothing to do with the skin to fabric transfer that occurs when wearing a garment. As we will see below, the vertical wicking test can cause fleece to appear to be a good wicking fabric. This is only because the vertical wicking test can exploit a wicking mechanism not available in real use. Figure 4 shows the vertical wicking device.

Wetting Test
The first step in establishing wicking is wetting. Wetting is replacing the air surrounding a fabric surface with water. This can happen faster or slower, depending on the fabric contact angle and the fabric construction. In order to better understand the role wetting plays in enhancing or degrading wicking performance, a wetting test can be completed. AATCC TM-79 is a popular example of a wetting test. Most of the popular tests operate in a manner that imparts additional energy (pressure) to a drop contacting a fabric that is not present in the skin/fabric interface during garment use. Such tests can distort the measured performance of fabrics that do not wet easily. In order to avoid what I consider to be a source of mischaracterization for certain types of fabrics, I created my own test that I felt would better represent the skin/fabric interface.
This is another very simple test. Three 4 x 4 inch (10 x 10 cm) samples of a test fabric are produced. Each is weighed. A saturated paper towel is placed on the bottom of a dish. Each individual sample is carefully placed on the surface of the saturated towel to avoid placing pressure between the sample and the paper towel. The sample sits for 30 seconds. At the end of 30 seconds, the sample is removed and weighed. The weight gain for each sample is calculated. The average dry weight and wet weight for the three samples are calculated. A sample with excellent wetting will show a weight gain that is significantly higher than the dry weight. A sample with poor wetting may show no weight gain at all.
A fabric that does well in the wetting test may still not provide exceptional wicking performance. A fabric can be very fast to wet but then lack the capillary capacity to move a great deal of water. This can be seen in some of the wicking specific fabrics included in this study such as the Polartec Silkweight Power Dry sample.
Figure 5 shows the wetting test setup.

Dropper Test
Placing drops on a fabric can provide a preliminary understanding of the speed of wetting and the possible extent of wicking performance. Even more information can be gleaned by adjusting the size of the drops. This is best done with an adjustable pipette. A hydrophobic or poorly wetting fabric will result in droplets remaining on the surface of the fabric. A hydrophilic fabric will absorb the drops. The better the wetting, or the more hydrophilic the fabric, the faster the drops will be absorbed into the fabric.
Standard AATCC TM-79 describes how drops can be applied for this test. Anyone wishing to have a low-cost, quick assessment of wetting and wicking performance can acquire an adjustable pipette online. I recommend the 10-100 µL version. When you get it, practice for a few minutes, watch the training video that is on the supplier’s website and have at it. The pipette is shown in Figure 6.

Now, let’s look at some of these tools in action.
Test Results: Video Observation of Wicking Performance
Dropper Test
In this test, we see an example of fabric with poor wetting performance (Polartec Power Grid) versus another fabric with excellent wetting performance (Polartec Power Dry). The poor wetting performance of the first fabric results in unreliable wicking performance.
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@Woubeir – I was on the same train of thought. Then I began to think that it really is all about water transport mechanisms. In the summers, I hike in the Sierras and many time I bring a cotton T-shirt ( I know, the death fabric). At that time of year, temperatures are warm and the humidity is generally low. Cotton does wick and the evaporation helps keep me cool. That being said, backpacking in the tropics (IMO) is brutal. The few times I have done it, I have been drenched in sweat and basically no evaporative cooling. In both cases, the temperature have been above 75 F. The greatest difference is how and when water is transported away from the skin.
I can image that in the Winter, a poorly set up layering system could generate high internal humidity (like the tropics). I am looking forward to the next article.
75° is still relatively OK. Hiking here is often above that. The issue starts really from 86° IMO. In combination with high humidity.
Hi Woubeir: Concerning your question about multiple base layers. I’d like to hold off on that until the 2nd article in that series. I am working this right now and doing a series of tests that sheds light on that very question. Interesting results, but not ready for prime time.
Hi Woubeir, again: In a prior post you asked about Air Vent fabric used in OR Echo. I ran a wick dry test on this in conjunction with a series of tests I am doing for which I wanted a light weight wicking layer. The one I have was heavily used for a season. I stopped using and got a similar Montbell quarter zip. I was ending up too wet in the Echo. So, it has lots of use for one summer and therefore lots of washes. It did poorly in the initial test. Slow to wet and moisture spread during the test was very uneven. It is now going through round 2 and behaving similarly. I did a 50ul drop test for wetting on it. The relevant standard says the drop test ends if absorption does not occur within 60 seconds. In the case of this shirt, it did not. I suspect it probably wicked fine when new, so, I would guess the hydrophilic chemistry has disappeared. Compare this to one of my Pat Capilene shirts that has been used heavily for several years and still wicks with the best of them. Difference in chemical treatments, I would guess. I guess I will substitute the Montbell shirt and see if that does better. Edit-Did dropper test on Montbell shirt. It wets just fine. Now, I will have to rerun two hours of tests. Based on this tiny sample size, I would put my money on Montbell and not Echo fabric.
Hi Stephen,
which Montbell-shirt is that because currently they seem not to have L/S zip-shirt (except in Japan made from their Wicron Cool-fabric) ?
Hmmmm- I have a couple of OR Echo hoodies that have been service for 2-3 years (1000+ miles on each) and not noticing any drop in performance yet.
“Hmmmm- I have a couple of OR Echo hoodies that have been service for 2-3 years (1000+ miles on each) and not noticing any drop in performance yet.”
I’ve been using the Echo as well. I’m surprised it isn’t being tested well here after some heavy use. If there is something that can transport moisture better, I would be interested to see how it works out in the real world.
For those of you hiking in hot, humid conditions, I was under the impression that one should NEVER have tight fitting layers for such conditions? Or is this not true? I always go with a very loose-fitting, ultra-thin polyester button-up shirts, as the airflow through the loose fit seems superior to any transport through fabric? I pretty much dress like people from India, who arguably live in “some” of the worst heat on the planet.
Woubier, Mike and Johan:
I also have a OR Echo short sleeve. Not as much use as the long sleeve version. I just did a drop test. On the short sleeve, it took 8 seconds for the 50ul drop to start wetting. No great, but functional. I repeated the test on the long sleeve. At 58 seconds, it started to wet. However the drop was not fully absorbed for another 10 seconds. It really absorbed slowly after wetting started. It really looks like the chemistry has worn or transformed after lots of washes. With all due respect to folks with years of experience, I suggest that changes of this sort may be hard to discern in use. It is not that the shirt won’t wick. It just wicks poorly. Water is absorbed and disperses slower than it used to. I have not done a wicking test of the Montbell, but will and will post later. The Montbell shirt I have is found here: https://www.montbell.us/products/disp.php?cat_id=25023&p_id=2304126&gen_cd=1
Stephen what other physics (beyond wicking) are at work with an effective base layer? The Echo in long sleeve AND a hood, weighs a mere 4 oz in Large. This lightweight fabric has to play a role in it’s ability to dry quickly (wicking or not).
one thing a base layer can do is absorb body oils so they don’t get into the insulation and degrade it
maybe controlling stinkiness
Mike: Go find figure 10 in the article and read the paragraph above. I think that a lightweight wicking fabric will have inherently fewer capillaries because there are fewer fibers in the yarns and more air spaces between the yarns. This means these really lightweight shirts probably have less capacity to move moisture than heavier shirts with more yarns. In a stronger wind this may have a benefit. Under a wind layer or at hiking speeds with exposure to still air, the increased air permeability of the lightweight fabric will be of little value.
I just tested the short sleeve and long sleeve shirts Echo shirts simultaneously. As expected, based on the 50ul drop test results, the short sleeve shirt did considerably better than the long sleeve shirt. But still not great. I stopped using these shirts because I soaked them during summer use in no time at all.
Now, wicking is only part of the story. As I discussed in the article, wicking can only occur as fast as evaporation. If you cannot maintain the evaporation rate, the shirt will saturate and wicking will stop. The way your ensemble deals with vapor leaving the wicking layer, especially in cold weather will determine your success in staying dry, particularly as your activity level increases.
This is what I am studying right now with multiple types of layers on various wicking layers. I think I am beginning to understand the relationships and this will end up in the 2nd article.
Later tonight or tomorrow, I will post videos and results of what I am doing today. A picture is worth a thousand words.
I don’t know that a new Echo is a bad garment. I thought it did well initially. I started searching for an alternative to the Pat Capilene when they discontinued the 1/4 zip. I got the Echos and the one Montbell. The Montbell developed little holes in the fabric, so it may have a durability issue. I hike above tree line and stay on trails to get above tree line. My layers don’t tend to rub on rocks or vegetation. I don’t have a new Echo to test. If someone wants to send me one, I will. But, at this point, there is clearly an issue in the chemistry used to support wicking. Based on one shirt, we don’t know if this is always the case. But, people should buy the pipette I described in the article and then they can check these things themselves. It is cheaper than buying the same failing shirt again and again. Of course, the question about whether lightweight shirts really make sense is another topic.
Water transport is such a difficult problem to solve. Steady State c0nditions are not bad (resting). Keeping warm while watching the Packers play at Lambeau Field is managable as your activity level can be pretty stable. Throw in activities and everything goes to hell.
While looking at the internet, I came across this statement from an article from Stanford;
“The average human, at rest, produces around 100 watts of power. [2] Over periods of a few minutes, humans can comfortably sustain 300-400 watts; and in the case of very short bursts of energy, such as sprinting, some humans can output over 2,000 watts”
While backpacking, this means that you have to manage / adjust your layers. Now, what would be kind of cool is a light weight temperature/humidity sensor that would forecast / advise when to adjust your layers. My 2 cents.
A thicker garment that is able to move more moisture via wicking it off the skin, but the moisture takes a longer time to move through that fabric vs a very light fabric that doesn’t wick as quickly, but dries more quickly- which is the better base layer?
If you have a fabric that moves moisture quickly AND dries quickly, the answer is easy then.
Hi Mike: May be a case of too light or maybe, you just need a different light weight fabric.
Here are the numbers on the tests:
If you look at the light wicking fabrics in my article, the two lightest fabrics-Thermocline and Coolfab had the worst wicking performance. If you go up just a little in weight to the Dozier fabric, you get great wicking performance. This may be one of those tradeoffs of which we are all familiar as we select out gear. I suspect as you get light, you simply give up wicking capacity.
You can watch a video of the wick/dry test for Montbell and Echo Long Sleeve here. When you watch the video you get very uniform spread of water on the Montbell shirt. You see a highly non-uniform spread on the Echo. The pattern on Echo typically means wetting is not easily occurring.
I always go with a very loose-fitting, ultra-thin polyester button-up shirts, as the airflow through the loose fit seems superior to any transport through fabric?
Loose-fitting is good, much better than thru-flow.
Ultra-thin is fine but won’t last as long. This may be acceptable.
Polyester is cheap and nasty and NOT good for sweating. It sticks to your skin, possibly the worst of all fabrics.
Imho.
Cheers
Hi Stephen,
as the fabricweight of the Montbell is heavier at 98 gsm (vs 78 gsm for the Echo), which of them do you consider cooler and is the difference significant ? As I use the Echo in very warm to hot temperatures (+30° to almost 40°). Fit is loose BTW.
BTW, am I seeing it right as that there is no table with the results from the dropper-test included in your article ?
I think sun protection and bug protection are important for a base layer which I would wear by itself if warm
It’s interesting hearing about others experiencing wetness in the OR echo, as I have. It is one of my favorite layers, but one characteristic that is undesirable is it essentially wetting out while going up a steep high pass then at the top where its windy, being cold as it dumps all your heat at once.
I have wondered if having a thin lightweight shirt that blocks UV and a shirt than wicks away moisture are competing objectives.
Thanks again for the article Stephen. The data and insight is helpful!
I’ve bought an alternative to try this year: a Rabbit running deflector hoodie. It is ~15g heavier but I’m hoping a little better in this regard; I’ve had good luck w/ their products for running.
I am really enjoying (probably not the correct word) reading other peoples experience with the OR Echo garments. I had purchased a couple due to good reviews elsewhere, along with the thought (incorrectly now it seems) that it is incredibly light so will dry quicker, wick better and protect me from the sun better. But my experience has been one of surprise at how wet (soaked) it gets and stays.
Living in New Zealand we do have limited access to the variety of brands and garments that are discussed here but OR is readily stocked here. I am now going to try and get a MontBell Cool Light top.
I have also just received a Finetrack SS top, as a result of a recommendation from Stephen, which I’m itching to test, but I think that is better suited to cold weather than the current warm summer conditions we are experiencing in Christchurch currently!
even if wicking fabric is not a very useful idea, there can still be clothing that’s advertised to be wicking that’s still very good clothing
if a manufacturer says their stuff is wicking, it will sell more, so they have to do it
maybe there’s some validity to the wicking concept so the manufacturer isn’t totally bad
personally, I just ignore whether something’s advertised as wicking
Hi Scott:
Did you get the Finetrack from Japan or Canada? I got mine from Canada. Like Henry Ford said, any color you want, as long as it is black. In Japan, they have it in gray, as I recall, which would make it better for summer use. I cannot purchase from the Japanese web site and if I did, it probably would not fit, since they are sized for Japanese purchasers. I am told the sizing is different from the Canadian distributor. If it is hot in NZ, I suggest trying it as an outer layer. You might be pleasantly surprised.
Hi Woubier: I just took a quick look at the recorded thermal image of the two shirts. The Montbell is about 1F cooler so it has slightly higher insulation value than the Echo. That will be insignificant. Of course, that is only part of the story. The rest is air permeability, MVTR performance and fit. I have not measured any of these. I agree with Roger that in hot weather a loose fit is more important air permeability for ventilation, unless you are out in a pretty good breeze. At hiking speeds, there is not enough air pressure on the front of the garment to provide much ventilation until you get air permeability well over 400 CFM/Ft2. The Echo is 385 (just measured it). So, not terrible for ventilation through the fabric at hiking speeds but in hot weather, I would want more. The drop test numbers are not in the chart but are in the replies I previously posted.
Stephen, you have alluded to it in some of your responses, but I am really looking forward to part 3 of this series, which seems that it will examine wicking next-to-skin layers versus direct evaporation from the skin via highly-air permeable fabrics (such as PolarTech Alpha Direct or Brynje mesh). That was a debate more than a decade ago in the cycling world, when companies started selling tight, next-to-skin sleeveless or short-sleeved layers to be worn under cycling jerseys. Companies (Pearl Izumi, Craft to name a few) claimed that you stayed cooler wearing the wicking “base” layer than by having bare skin. Of course, as with any marketing claims, I was highly dubious!
It will be great to see your scientific evidence of how much moisture can be transported from or evaporate from the skin, and how much cooling that would create for your body, with various wicking or mesh layers contacting the skin compared to bare skin.
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