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    James Marco
    BPL Member

    @jamesdmarco

    Locale: Finger Lakes
    #3637939
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    We’re continuing exponential growth.  Probably need tighter shutdown, although it’s possible we’re testing more so there are new cases (unlikely)

    Worst states:

    New York’s going to be updated again today, will probably be 6000+ new cases, continues to be about half the total U.S. but other states are starting to get just as bad

    Washington was #2 but has moved down to #5.  They’re going to be down to #10 within a few days at current rates.  Jay (the snake) Inslee imposed strict shutdown 10 days ago.  Now the number of new daily cases is dropping.  That’s what the rest of the country needs to do.

    #3637941
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    U.S. now leads the world in total number of cases, but not deaths

    Maybe there’s a delay from when a new case is detected until the person get’s sick and dies, in which case we’ll catch up with Italy deaths in a few weeks

    We should tighten up the shutdown before it gets worse

    #3637942
    d k
    BPL Member

    @dkramalc

    We’re number one!

    Record # of unemployment filed, too.

    He’s right, I AM tired of all this winning.

     

    Oh, wait, this isn’t chaff…sorry, I got carried away.

    #3637943
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    we’re exceptional : )

    #3637944
    jscott
    BPL Member

    @book

    Locale: Northern California

    A bit of annoyance and boredom and PATIENCE from all of us up front will pay dividends down the road.

    If this were pitched as a month vacation in place, I’d be all over it. My guitar playing is improving by leaps and bounds!

    (I understand that income is being stretched. Again, good practices now will accelerate the time when we can go back to work.)

    Public service announcement from the land o’bland.

    #3637951
    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    BTW, COVID 19 is a lung eater that leaves permanent damage IF you  survive.

    Jus’ sayin’…

    #3638033
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    We’ve got a couple food orders from amazon.  On one of them, I accidentally selected the wrong credit card.  A few hours after I ordered it they cancelled the order – invalid credit card.

    Then, yesterday, Brenda got an email from amazon saying that an order was about to be cancelled with a link to click on to update the credit information.

    Wait a second!!!  There was no information about the specific order.  And we looked at a couple of pending orders and they were still good.  And when we did screw up, it just killed the order, didn’t give us an opportunity to update credit information,   And upon looking at the URL of the update credit information link, it was not amazon

    In our feeling of hysteria about the virus, it would be easier to be vulnerable to phishing.

    Or a request from a charitable institution.

    #3638172
    Ryan Jordan
    Admin

    @ryan

    Locale: Central Rockies

    My mom was admitted to ER tonite in Seattle with chest pain and cold symptoms. CT scan, chest x-ray, and covid-19 test (3-4 day turnaround expected). She has an underlying health issue (heart). My dad is home, he has underlying health issues (history of several cases of pneumonia, and he just had a knee surgery). Both in their upper 70s. Gonna be an anxious couple of days…

    Please stay home.

    #3638186
    Greg Mihalik
    Spectator

    @greg23

    Locale: Colorado

    “BTW, COVID 19 is a lung eater that leaves permanent damage IF you  survive.”

    Not a doctor and not trying to diminish the severtity of  Covid 19.

    If you develope pneumonia, and if it progresses to acute respritory distress syndrome, then you will probably have lasting diminished lung capacity.

    This occurred in 2 out of 168 presenting with pneumonia. in ONE study.

    I am not comforted by those numbers, but “uncomplicated covid” will not destroy your lung capacity.

    As we move through this an learn more, good and bad, I urge exercising care in what we post.

    #3638187
    Greg Mihalik
    Spectator

    @greg23

    Locale: Colorado

    Ryan, I am sorry to hear that. I wish her the best of care and the best of luck.

    This will touch us all, some more than others. Hang in there.

    I’m staying home.

    #3638189
    James Marco
    BPL Member

    @jamesdmarco

    Locale: Finger Lakes

    Sorry to hear this Ryan. There is nothing you can do except hope. It is fortunate that there is not a lot of COVID19 out there, though it is virulent…most tests are negative. Personal contact is hard to forgo. Often we can hurt the very thing we cherish, but a phone call every day to each would be good. Maintain contact. COVID19 is FAR from a death sentence, despite the media hype. Newer techniques for treating the illness are being developed, a second vaccine is now in trial, and equipment will be shared as needed. Her chances for full recovery, assuming she has the damn virus, are getting better each day. Lot’s of room for hope.

    The same type of risk assessment we do out backpacking will stand us in good stead through this. The mere fact of a grey pate means we will have a less than great prognosis (iff we catch the bug.) So be it. Just because old age happens does NOT mean we won’t fight it just as hard as a 20 year old. Your parents NEED your support, encouragement and love. As do your children. We are in this together.

    We have only an acquired immunity to this disease. Until our vaunted technology can step in, we are living in the dark ages of the plague.

    #3638194
    Brad Rogers
    BPL Member

    @mocs123

    Locale: Southeast Tennessee

    I’m sorry to hear that Ryan.  Prayer’s her way.

    #3638195
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    sorry to hear Ryan, hope all goes well

    #3638212
    d k
    BPL Member

    @dkramalc

    Hoping your mom and dad both get through this tough time.  Good that she is getting care now.

    #3638219
    Kattt
    BPL Member

    @kattt

    Best wishes your way Ryan.

    #3638221
    BlackHatGuy
    Spectator

    @sleeping

    Locale: The Cascades

    Best wishes to both your mom and dad Ryan.

    #3638326
    John Z
    BPL Member

    @feather

    Sending best wishes for  you and your family, Ryan.

    #3638330
    jscott
    BPL Member

    @book

    Locale: Northern California

    Be assured the whole damn community is concerned and hoping for you and your family Ryan.

    #3638426
    Monte Masterson
    BPL Member

    @septimius

    Locale: Southern Indiana

    Don’t want to diminish the severity of the COVID 19 virus because if one of my family members were to succumb to the illness, I’d be severely bummed. But there are actually some good side effects of the pandemic which are starting to reveal themselves, and one is the fact that much much less CO2 and other particulates are being emitted into the atmosphere.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/national/its-official-metro-manila-now-has-bluer-skies-cleaner-air/ar-BB11IRj2?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U147FDHP

    #3638436
    HkNewman
    BPL Member

    @hknewman

    Locale: The West is (still) the Best

    Even without COVID, sometimes various diseases cause permanent lung and even heart damage (weighing it all after a doctor is reporting heart damage in some COVID patients).    After the flattening the curve stage is done to economize ICU beds, the economy will try to get back to normal and that includes the recreational/tourist industries.  There is still a risk until a COVID vaccine is distributed.   Then there’s anti-vaxxers and possible mutation that may keep it lingering (endemic is the term I believe).

    Another way to limit exposure is the bicycle and I believe, bicycle trails.  If there were more, I think there would not have been that rush to rural America for those with cabin fever (which now pretty much has the virus).

    https://www.outsideonline.com/2410530/bikes-social-distance-transportation

     

    #3638538
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    the flattening the curve stage is done to economize ICU beds,
    If by economise we are talking about $$, that has to be one of the more obnoxious things I have ever read on BPL.

    The hospitals simply do not have enough ICU beds to handle a big peak in infections, so adequate care could not be provided for many victims. Death results. Flattening the curve, as it is called, is done to keep the load within the capacity of the existing system.

    Various organisations are scrambling to build temporary facilities, but it take TIME to do so. It is not a question of dollars, it is simply that America does not have adequate facilities right now, for people who are sick right now.

    If I have misunderstood the use of the word economise, my apologies.

    Roger

    #3638544
    jscott
    BPL Member

    @book

    Locale: Northern California

    Yes, Roger, I’m sure what’s meant is, flattening to curve to lessen the number of people occupying those icu beds.

    #3638553
    Edward John M
    BPL Member

    @moondog55

    I disagree with you James Marco

    This disease is a death sentence if you happen to be in that percentage of the population that is immune compromised or who have an underlying condition and you do not have ready access to an ICU that is fully staffed and fully resourced. I have an nephew working in a NY hospital as an anesthetist, he is already run of his feet, exhausted, running out of PPE, ordinary beds and ICU beds and ventilators, resigned to getting the disease himself and the very real possibility of not surviving because they haven’t set aside units to treat health care workers as a priority and because he has run himself into the ground already because the USA simply doesn’t have any reserve capacity in the system.

    If I get it I will probably die as I have the benign form of cystic fibrosis and therefore less likely to actually get treatment at 70YO, so I am in the process now of writing a new will, just in case

    I am going to go and get my seasonal ‘Flu and pneumonia shots ASAP but even GP’s here are flat out seeing worried people

    #3638559
    AK Granola
    BPL Member

    @granolagirlak

    Ryan, hope your parents are ok.

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