Don't be fooled by the split shorts and shirt, that dark mass behind me brought some wind blown snow and sleet… gotta love January in NM, sunny blue bird skys one second and Armageddonesque lows the next.
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2012 R2R2R Group – Training Log’s
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nice pic! we've been warm, but not quite shorts warm
ps your training log needs updating :)
Mike
I'm getting on it now Mike.
How is it up there in MT? I know CO is hurting badly for any snowfall; bare 14'ers in mid January is not a good sign. This could be a ravenous fire season come spring for the mountain west.
Eugene- we're not as bad off as Colorado, but were certainly hurting in some areas for snow pack, just last week they were battling a very large blaze on the east front- that is simply unheard of
the weather is going to be taking a turn early next week w/ much cooler temps and more chances for precip- I don't mind the precip, but not looking forward to the cooler temps :)
Mike
as a side not went into the gym and am still having issues w/ my shoulder- tried to flat bench and it was a no go- not pain, but like the nerves in the shoulder aren't firing- weird, really weird- other exercises (ones that don't involve the shoulder much) seem to be fine- hoping this gets turned around less people mistake me for a real runner (which I'm a long ways of being!) :)
Ran Mt. San Antonio (10,064') with Adan this morning; here's a shot of him ahead of me, climbing the Devil's Backbone. We ran a 13 mile, 4000' gain summit loop. Good times.
Beautiful mountain, a good dose of thin air, frozen fingers at the summit, all just above the masses of Los Angeles. We were first on the summit today.
Tony Krupicka and Jorge Pacheco were on the summit a month ago…
http://antonkrupicka.blogspot.com/2011/12/week-summary-dec-12-18.html
…….I'm guessing Adan and I were faster :)
Or not. They ran the whole loop in the same time it took us to summit. (2:23 RT vs. 3:26 RT)
(quite a difference in weather over one month if you compare his photos with mine; most all snow/ice is gone except for north faces)
That looks like a sweet section of trail Craig- great run fellas.
Adan is getting strong, get him on board for April.
I'm loving the photos btw, its cool to see where you guys are getting your miles.
"I'm loving the photos btw, its cool to see where you guys are getting your miles."
Do to a Krupicka type shin injury I'm forced into alternative forms of conditioning. My focus has shifted to spinning indoors and hiking with my dogs. Here are a few pictures of where I'm getting my non running miles. :(
Above is a picture of my CycleOps P400. My morning split today was 1.5 hours at 215 watts covering just under 36 miles. I rode using a five CD mix of Metallica, good music to match my dark mode (I would much prefer to be running). I will put in a 1 hour split this afternoon and a hike with the dogs.
I'm fortunate to have open areas for hiking with my dogs directly off the back of our property. Here is a picture of the climb directly behind the house, a 2,000'+ gain to the fire lookout at the top.
Craig- great pic- 4000' is great, don't have anything like that close by unfortunately
Thom- hope your recovery is speedy, at least you can exercise that's a big plus :)
I wish I had a 2000' gain near my backyard- that would be great training for the R2R2R
looks like our weather is going to take a very nasty turn starting tomorrow, the coming snow is fine, the dam(n) frigid temps aren't-
guessing at least part of my "runs" will be on the stairmaster
my neck/shoulder impingement is still recovering, much more effected in the gym lifting, than running (starting to get skinny- well skinny for me anyways :))
Mike
but then, I haven't done any running. Just snowshoeing, X-C skiing, up & down the stairs and some stationary biking.
I've dropped about 7 pounds. Dropping another 8-10 would be ideal.
Nothing yesterday, -28F is below the bottom of my fun meter, but -16F this morning has warmed to -4F, so it's back on the X-C skiis.
I had two great workouts this week, both 7.2 miles straight up and down Kennesaw Mtn near where I work. So the stage was set for an epic run this weekend up on the AT. So I packed everything up last night, set out my gear and set the alarm for 6am. But weakness hit! The alarm went off at 6, I got up, talked myself out of going and went back to sleep. But the story doesn't end there thanks to Craig and his post above.
When I got up, I saw there was a new post on the R2R2R Training thread. Then I read Craigs post and it really torqued me off. Here others were doing very cool runs this weekend and here I sat. So, despite being about 8am, I headed off for the hour and a half drive to the start of the AT Approach Trail. The late start was a blessing in disguise because I knew I had to move pretty quick to get the run in before dark. I ended up doing 32 in an hour and forty minutes faster than I did a year ago on my first 2011 PCT training hike. The workouts the last few weeks have paid off.
Thank you Craig for giving me the kick in the butt to get off of my butt. But I'm still not happy that I didn't have it in me to do it on my own. Now I just have to be able to walk tomorrow. I have to fly to CA for a week and a half. Now where to hike next weekend, snowless Sierra, Death Valley, Big Sur?
Here's my picture from the Southern Terminus of the AT. Not nearly as cool as Craig's location!
Here's a photo of the snowshoe/ski trails around our property. That's my wife with axe, I have the chainsaw to clear blown-down trees.
You guys are going to be so ready for hills, heat, and thin air. I, on the other hand, am not going to be phased by cold temps or snow near the rims.
If "weak" is running a 50K in ~7 hours, I want to be weak too!
Nice job Greg.
My next step is making time to start getting some big training runs in too. Next on my list is crossing Joshua Tree (~38 miles) on the CRHT. As a training run I likely won't actually run the whole thing (will likely fast hike 50% of it), but will do it mainly just to get in nonstop time on the feet.
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I did something different tonight. Feeling tired, but wanting to stick to my goal of running everyday in 2012 (1 mile per day minimum), I went out for a quick mile on the streets…but I walked fast instead. I did it out of curiosity; I haven't timed a walking mile in….ever?
I clocked a blazing 12:15. Any faster and I'd have had to get the race walking hips and arm pumping going…which I don't really know how to do.
(Which leads to my other goal of starting a punk-rock long distance race walking team. But that's another story.)
Anyhow, I never breathed hard. Coming from running, I feel like I could do this all day. Could I?
So say I slow down to walking a 13:00/mile. Where would that put my time on a 50K?
Holy crap, I says…that's about 6:43:00.
My last "official" 50K race was just under 8:00:00. Now it had 10,000 feet of climbing at elevation and I was seriously undertrained for it…but that's a big time difference.
My fastest 50K (on trail with ~8000 gain) was a bit under 7:30:00.
Tonight's walking pace would put me on course to beat both (though it's not close to my road marathon PR), though I walked on road, no elevation, etc.
My, my, my….Are most of us middle to back of the packers better off race walking anything over 30 miles???
Food for thought….
If I remember right, I swear I heard Chris Wallace say he used to race walk (though I may be totally wrong) I'm curious….
Swing those hips Craig!
Racewalking looks like it requires significantly more technique for it to be effective, but it has to be easier on the body yes? They use the entire foot through the gait cycle, there is considerably less impact. My God is it painful to watch though!
3:34:13 is the racewalk world record for the 50K distance for reference. That's some seriously fast walking.
Craig: I'm a fast walker and historically a non-runner. Serious trail runners beat me every time by a lot, at least in time, although sometimes I go more miles.
But casual runners on a mountain trail? Many times I walk past them as they are "running". And since they stop to eat, drink and rest, which I do as I walk, I do the round trip faster.
For a few miles, I'd do 14 minute miles walking.
For 10 miles, I'm more at 17 minute miles.
40-50 miles and the day always seem to average 3 mph = 20 minute miles but that includes ALL eating, drinking, filtering, peeing, changing socks, etc.
>"My fastest 50K (on trail with ~8000 gain) was a bit under 7:30:00"
With my style and speed of walking, that would about 9:40 so you're doing it a lot faster with your running. But if you walked the uphills, you might have more energy for the flats and downhills and lose little if anything off your total time.
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Got in a fun run yesterday morning up a local peak, some thorny scrambling near the end, followed by a long and fast run down singletrack from the top of the pass. It feels like early spring here in NM right now, cool and windy!
Eugene- nice pic, I was going to post a pic from cell phone to contrast yours, but alas my techno-foo is not working to well today
anywho we got ~ 10" of snow, so it definitely makes running more work- I ran 3 miles today (was going to run 5) and it took almost all of an hour to do
I also add we had very cold temps all week (until today) and Art is correct- the stair master will definitely give you a good workout! :)
Mike
Eugene: Thanks for the video link.
I found it striking for how few times I've been on the SK how well I remember and can recognize particular switchbacks. I think that says something about being more alive and alert when in the outdoors.
But my two times on the NK have been so long ago it would help me if, the night before, someone could spend 5 minutes talking me through it while looking over a map. Trails I know are so much easier to do than ones that I don't know or don't remember well.
I've purchased my air flights (5,108 miles round trip) and I'm looking forward to it a lot!
Good long run (~15mi/3600'climb) with "el equipo de Nuevo Mexico". I rolled my ankle pretty bad at the end — it was enough to take me to the ground. In my hasted I popped to me feet and figured running was the best option in case swelling began to set in – I wanted to spend as few miles limping as possible. To my surprise I was able to run the remaining descent and a day later have no pain (only some mild swelling).
A few photos:
Self at the highpoint of the day.
Eugene and Co. descending the mountain.
Here's some pics from today's long run with Adan.
16 miles, 3600' feet. Angeles National Forest
Me, Strawberry Peak north face in background
Adan, booking it through a sweet mixed section.
Looking back towards Los Angeles
Feeling like a bighorn sheep on stretches of steep, vanishing trail.
Nice, Craig — that last one looks like some sketchy terrain.
Great photos, great running everyone.
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1/16: 3R/0/7R(1000')/7R(1000')/0/3R/16T(3600') = 36(5600')
1/23: 0/7R(1300')/7R(1300')/0/3R/3R/20T(4600') = 40(7200')
1/30: 0/2R/4T(1000')/2R/0/7T(1800')/12T(3000') = 27 (5800') rest week!!
2/6: 0/2R/4T/5T/0/30T(9800') = 41(9800')
2/13: 0/0/8R/0/10R/0/12T(4400') = 30 (4400')
2/20: 0/0/0/4R/0/0/17T(7000') = 21(7000')
One can only speculate that this means Adan is officially throwing in his sombrero.
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