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James holden BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 9:10 am

Craig …

That pic from the film is a recreation …

There was no film crew to do the actual full free solo … He just woke up and decided to go for it

He went back to do parts of it for the film crew

The same happened on ueli stecks solo of the eiger

As to "looking clean" in photos … Well thats what photoshoots are all about

http://www.esquire.co.uk/culture/article/245/profile-the-worlds-best-free-soloist/

This is what happens on photo shoots …

At the top, Honnold flexes his muscles. “Do you want me to diddle my nips, too? Photographers love it when you stimulate your nipples.”

When the huber brothers did one of their film shoot they were in the camp4 bathroom shaving their chest hairs

Dont believe every photo shoot you see … They are carefully crafted

The real honnold in squamish

;)

PostedMay 11, 2015 at 9:15 am

I think you fail to understand my attempt at sarcasm and humor Eric.

OK, better stop writing now, otherwise people might think I'm not out there "living it".

Ian BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 9:18 am

I was going to disagree with Eric but I now see he used bold font. And the he said nipples. Twice.

How can you argue against bold font and nipples?

I hiked a couple >20 mile days on the wonderland. A lot of people I met along the way thought anything over six miles was crazy. I also met a few people who were hiking/running it all in one shot. Some of them were on track to finish in under 36 hours. People have finished it in under 24.

PostedMay 11, 2015 at 9:40 am

> Not arguing senselessly from the comfort of their iPad and their couch…

Says Eric Chan, who posts all day, every day, to about 15 different web forums. And talks more about gear than any single other person on BPL.

Such good comedy.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 9:45 am

No, he looks like a geeky, nerdly engineer at high tech company, fresh out of college

James holden BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 9:52 am

Says Eric Chan, who posts all day, every day, to about 15 different web forums. And talks more about gear than any single other person on BPL.

Such good comedy.

Oh hi there dave

The BPLer who does nothing but whine and troll here

Lost yr way from the "REI" thread?

I would buy you a new BRS stove from gearbest if you didnt whine about em too

I think you should go take a hike

But we all know you wont

;)

PostedMay 11, 2015 at 10:00 am

So you DO read every single thread on BPL. And post constantly about gear, while hating on anyone and everyone who posts about gear. Such self-loathing. Oh, and then the other 15+ outdoor, climbing, hiking, outdoor accident reports, gear, etc. forums that you post on all day, every day. However do you find the time to be so dang outdoorsy?

James holden BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 10:04 am

So dave

you DO read every single thread on BPL. And troll constantly about everything while hating on anyone and everyone period. Such self-loathing. Oh, and then you just whine about ths thread in the deals section and then anything to do with REI. However do you find the time to be so dang outdoorsy?

LOL

Just petty little hatred …

We can dig up all yr hateful old post if u want

;)

PostedMay 11, 2015 at 10:11 am

Nope. Just don't suffer fools gladly.

Isn't it time to head over to yr daily round of yr other 14 intrawebz forumz?

Somewhere a minor hiking accident is being reported!

Someone is mentioning an unraveled thread on an MEC puffay!

Someone is discussing CLO values for a new windbreaker!

Somewhere a minor disagreement about which prussik knot to use is happening!

And you are missing ALL of this by wasting time on gram-weenie yet non-elite BPL.

Adam Klags BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 10:11 am

@ rOg w – I agree with some of what you said in your comment, but I wanted to just comment on this… your first paragraph, where you say:

"Eight plus years ago there seemed to be a lot more members/posters out doing more and posting trip reports. Those seem to be rare now. BPL for the past couple years has become pretty stagnant. There are the members who have been around since BPL's inception and are here to socialize and on the other end are the new members, just starting out. What has disappeared, much like the American economy is the middle class, those members who are doing trips regularly and posting about them."

I'd like to break this down and talk about the "why."

I was not a member here 8 years ago, but I've been a member for quite a few now, maybe 5-ish years? I also remember seeing more trip reports. They have become a little more rare. I also agree that the middle class in the US is disappearing.

However, I'd argue this has nothing to do with BPL and backpacking. I'd like to offer a few other reasons that are much more likely for the changes than the impending death of the middle class:

1) Blogs. 8 years ago, BPL was one of only a couple of sources of information for UL backpacking and gear. These days, while it may still be "king," there are many more relevant blogs and websites than I ever knew about back then.

2) Showing off isn't new anymore. 8 years ago it was much more of a novelty to be able to show off your trips with beautiful photos and have something "unique" on the internet. There is plenty of opportunity to share… many people are using facebook or their own blogs, and may not be as motivated to come to BPL to post a trip report, if they've already done so somewhere else. I write trip reports for my blog, for BPL, for tenkara-fisher.com, and have posted on the tenkarabum blog too. That's a lot of writing and trip reporting, and therefore, a LOT of trips are needed. More than an average working individual has time for maybe.

3) Videos – lots of videos on youtube and vimeo. They speak for themselves and are their own trip reports.

4) People. Many of the trip reports and write ups are from the same group of individuals. Maybe those people have had enough of writing about their reports and don't need to share them. Maybe negative comments turned them off. Maybe they didn't get paid enough to write, or maybe it just got boring to them. But whatever the reason, its up to you and me and the rest of the BPL community to support and inspire these reports, make us want to write them!

I'm sure there's more, but it seems that you also answered your own question/statement later on, when you say "…what has changed is fewer people have the need to talk about [gear] online. Because I wear a Patagonia Ultralight Down Jacket or use a Western Mountaineering sleeping bag means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of life."

Exactly. And so that is what happening on BPL. I still see a vibrant community of people helping each other out and sharing information. I could do without the ads (so I use an ad blocker) but otherwise I'm just happy the site is still here.

I would challenge you to submit some trip reports and articles and put your money where your mouth is for the rest of us to enjoy :)

James holden BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 10:12 am

As to myself i freely admit that ive been lazy and rather than climbing lots ive been spending most of my time cleaning off easy routes for other climbers to enjoy

Im sure that doesnt meet yr "hardcore BPL" dave but i assure u it wears out gear just as fast as yr wearing out yr keyboard trolling !!!

So duurtay !!!

And you are missing ALL of this by wasting time on gram-weenie yet non-elite BPL.

Says the guy who attacks and trolls folks .. And sees red every time REI comes up

Troll aways !!!

;)

PostedMay 11, 2015 at 10:18 am

This thread reminds of a BPL classic.

when yr in a chimney on the last pitch of angels and you realize you need to drop yr pack on a sling and haul it with you … its time to ungentrify and Trash yr gear .

James holden BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 10:21 am

Willie …

Id luv to see u do that chimney with a pack on … And a UL pack … Ill buy u a beer

Of course the climb might still be closed now due to the recent rock fall !!!

;)

Dean F. BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 10:22 am

— I think you fail to understand my attempt at sarcasm and humor Eric.

Yeah, he clearly doesn't grok scare-quotes, either. He's getting kinda defensive, isn't he? And evidently I'm a pissant because I don't climb. :)

— I was going to disagree with Eric but I now see he used bold font. And the he said nipples. Twice.

Can I get points for "scrotum?" Scrotum!

James holden BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 10:30 am

Another BPL classic folks !!!

Dun worry it was already a classic before i joined in

Some more "elite" posting here

Off to do some dim sum and lazy climbing right now with my favorite partner

I can post up pics of us climbing easy stuff if folks want … But i assure you its nothing special

I eagerly await what happens on this thread the next few hours when im back

Have fun ar yr desks

;)

PostedMay 11, 2015 at 10:49 am

Adam, you make very good points.

I agree that blogs are what's killing a lot of BPL content. And the fact that the software here is so tedious to upload pics and reports does not help either. There are many recent trips I've done that I haven't bothered sharing here simply out of laziness/lack of interest on my part.

But another thing I find interesting is that there's typically very little discussion surrounding trip reports, so it often feels somewhat pointless to post them. I'm certainly guilty of this. Reading about the recent solo crossing of the ANWR by Jörgen Johansson was great…but I probably could've done better than the typical "Nice job Dude!!" trip report comment. More actual discussion would be refreshing. "Cool!!!" seems a bit anti-climactic in the face of many of the cool reports I see here.

Here's an example from a trip I was on a few years ago…read the comments:
http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=66010&skip_to_post=564297#564297

Only ten comments from people not on the trip. How do we explain that in the face of pages devoted to a thread like this one?

I've stopped posting TRs partially because I feel not a lot comes of it. Strangely, they actually seem to be one of the least commented upon topics on this site…and are often immediately buried in the more typical chatter here. It would be nice to see more questions and discussion surrounding reports. I'll try and do a better job myself.

Kattt BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 10:50 am

Eric posts a lot on gear related stuff. He does not seem to be looking for reasons to argue or attack people.

Edited for spelling.

Kattt BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 11:02 am

Craig, maybe Trip reports get less responses but might be widely read and enjoyed nonetheless. It is likely that people that post less, particularly on chaffy stuff, actually spend plenty of time reading and appreciating the less controversial threads. Some forums show how many "visits" a thread has had and that would be a better indication of interest than replies.

Here is a trip report of mine. Got two short replies…

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=34574

Justin Baker BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 11:14 am

Some forums have a "Thank You" button so that you can acknowledge someones contribution without posting a text response. I think it works well.

PostedMay 11, 2015 at 11:35 am

>Now I don't know if I should go buy a new shirt or rub some dirt on the ones I already have.

Apparently you missed out on the memo Craig – 'clean' climbing is all the rage these days, get rid of the dirty grubby clothes and go buy some new clothing! ;)

Tom D. BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 1:11 pm

While I hike as often as possible, two or three times a week when I can, the vast majority of time I am at home, work, etc. because I have to be. That's where this forum comes in. No, its not "hiking online", but its as close as I am going to get. People like to talk about things that they enjoy, as well as research and acquire gear, research new trails to hike, etc. That's half the fun.

I have sometimes wondered how middle class folk like myself with a wife, kids, mortgage, etc. can afford some of the higher end gear. I never thought I'd be buying even a packable down jacket, or if I did I figured it would be a Hawkes or something like that. Then, while strolling through a mountaineering shop in Mammoth, I came upon a deal on a Montbell UL down jacket ($125 at the time)and I had the cash with me so I picked it up. Since then, much of my gear has been creeping upward in price, but only as I found things that I believed would enhance my hiking enjoyment. I still buy almost all my hiking clothes at thrift stores (mainly because I keep finding deals on Columbia, Patagonia, Ex-Officio, etc), or at sales on Steep n Cheap or Backcountry, as I have to stay within my "fun" budget. While I shudder at the thought of ever spending $300 on a jacket or $500+ on a shelter, I am realizing that it's not only possible that I would buy one in the future, it may even be probable under the right circumstances.

Ken Thompson BPL Member
PostedMay 11, 2015 at 6:06 pm

Dave, I miss your old tag line. Move it to Chaff. Miss the bloody socks avatar too.

PostedMay 11, 2015 at 8:31 pm

i think bob gross complained, so i changed it.

must not upset the delicate genius.

also, MODERATOR, MOVE TO CHAFF.

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