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Podcast 023 | Henry Shires of TarpTent

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Henry Shires is the President and Founder of Tarptent, a direct-to-consumer, cottage-industry tent manufacturer known for its light, stable, and roomy shelters. In this episode of the Backpacking Light Podcast, Andrew chats with Henry about his design philosophy and process, fabrics, Tarptent’s business journey, the importance of taking time away from your company to recharge, and much more.

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  • Guest introduction – Henry Shires, Founder and President of TarpTent
  • Henry’s design aesthetic
  • Story of the first Tarptent
  • Henry’s design process and signatures
  • Fabric
    • Why Henry started designing for DCF
    • The BPL DCF Podast
    • Working with DCF
      • Taping
      • The way the fabric is produced (size of the sheets)
  • Other design challenges
    • Stretch factor of fabrics
    • Failed designs
    • Combining successful design elements
    • Using CAD vs seeing how things work in the real world
  • Testing designs
    • Usability vs real-world stresses
  • How a passion for design leads to unique features
  • The business journey – from first design to present
    • Making the choice to go full-time
    • Early-days struggles
      • Production
    • Sewing in Seattle – pros and cons
  • Things coming up in 2020 for TarpTent
  • Direct-to-consumer and why it is important for Henry
  • Balancing running a business vs actually doing the business
  • Staffing a cottage business
  • An experiment with Tyvek fabric!
  • The future of shelters
    • Henry is concerned about decreasing weight at the cost of performance
    •  New fabrics?
    • Always room for new designs (but there’s only so many ways to hold up a tent).
  • Why it is important for Henry to produce affordable gear (Like the ProTrail)
  • What Henry views as the future of the cottage industry
  • Henry’s final thoughts – keep doing it until it isn’t fun anymore
    • Carving out time for hiking
    • Carving out time for family

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  • Andrew Marshall – Producer, Host, and Editor
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  • Dec 26, 2019 at 2:56 pm #3624185
    Backpacking Light
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    @backpackinglight

    Locale: Rocky Mountains

    Companion forum thread to: Podcast 023 | Henry Shires of TarpTent

    Andrew chats with Henry Shires of Tarptent about his design philosophy and process, fabrics, business journey, the importance of taking time away from your company to recharge, and much more.

    Dec 26, 2019 at 4:54 pm #3624209
    Monte Masterson
    BPL Member

    @septimius

    Locale: Changes Often

    Excellent interview. Henry mentioned not wanting to make DCF designs that produce a lot of waste. In a recent thread Henry stated that it’s a main reason for not producing DCF Protrails. Zpacks utilizes most of their DCF waste by making stuff sacks.

    Tarptent needs to start offering a camo DCF option just like MLD, Zpacks and Trekkertent does. I’d be on board then.

    Dec 27, 2019 at 2:55 am #3624251
    Todd T
    BPL Member

    @texasbb

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Good interview.  At one point Henry alluded to the question “what haven’t we solved yet” being one driver of new designs.  I’ll offer one:  2-person, 2-door, 2-wall tent light enough and long enough for one tall dude, sorta like the Saddle 2 but not as discontinued. :-)

    Dec 27, 2019 at 2:58 pm #3624293
    Henry S
    BPL Member

    @07100

    2-person, 2-door, 2-wall tent light enough and long enough for one tall dude,

    I hear you …

    -H

    Dec 27, 2019 at 11:47 pm #3624371
    matthew k
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    “what haven’t we solved yet”

    I’m sure you’ve heard this before (meaning I’ve emailed Henry about it in the past) but the thing I want is a side entry tent that is either stuffable or has very short pitchlock struts. I want it to fit sideways in a small volume pack. That’s the holy grail, imo.

    Help me, Obi Wan Shirenobi. You’re my only hope.

    Dec 28, 2019 at 12:19 am #3624376
    Rene Ravenel
    BPL Member

    @autox

    No one seems to take advantage of the fact that many people sharing a 2 or 3 person tent cary 4 trekking poles between them.  2 person trekking pole tents generally use only 2 poles.

    Seems like 4 poles could give you a more storm worthy structure with smaller panels and better tension.  It could also offer more area with a high ceiling, especially above the face when laying down.

    Dec 28, 2019 at 1:06 am #3624380
    Henry S
    BPL Member

    @07100

    I want it to fit sideways in a small volume pack.

    Yes, noted.  Are you ok if the pichloc(s) is/are easily detachable and foldable (and stored vertically) ?

     

    Seems like 4 poles could give you a more storm worthy structure with smaller panels and better tension

    We actually did that for the Saddle 2.  There are upsides (as you noted) and downsides (increased setup complexity/requirements).  My feeling is that for large (3/4 person) tents the upside can exceed the downside.

     

    Dec 28, 2019 at 4:49 am #3624547
    matthew k
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    Henry, removing the pitchlocks concerns me. I’d hate to drop them somewhere.

    Dec 29, 2019 at 1:27 am #3624657
    Dan Durston
    BPL Member

    @dandydan

    Locale: Canadian Rockies

    Nice interview. I think a v2 of the Saddle would be pretty interesting. IMO, all of the downsides with the v1 were solvable.

    Dec 29, 2019 at 2:55 pm #3624707
    James Marco
    BPL Member

    @jamesdmarco

    Locale: Finger Lakes

    Thanks, Guys, a good podcast! Thanks!

    Dec 30, 2019 at 7:15 pm #3624923
    John
    BPL Member

    @johnnyh88

    Locale: The SouthWest

    Good interview and interesting discussion. After the X-Mid came out, I thought we had seen basically all there was to trekking pole tents. And then came the Aeon Li. I’m still holding out for a non-DCF version :)

    Shelters are an interesting optimization problem, and something I’ve gone round and round with as I’ve backpacked through different environments and weather conditions. I want a shelter to be light, but still durable and storm-worthy and easy to pack. I want it to have a small footprint, but still have room to live and be easy to set up. There’s a lot demanded from a shelter. I’ve come to the oft-quoted conclusion that there is no perfect tent.

    Jan 4, 2020 at 10:15 am #3625505
    David U
    BPL Member

    @the-family-guy

    I have owned several Shires creations and they have all been superb.

    Thanks Henry for years of producing highly usable, light, and relatively inexpensive shelters.  Both my wallet and feet thank you.

    Jan 4, 2020 at 10:17 am #3625506
    David U
    BPL Member

    @the-family-guy

    “I’m still holding out for a non-DCF version :)”

    Me too.  I bet the weight might be 3 or so oz more but be more durable and much less expensive.

    Jan 30, 2020 at 1:14 am #3629287
    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    And I’m waiting for two things:

    1. green (or tan) colored DCF in the Notch Li
    2. silpoly fabric in one or two tents to see how well it works. Polyester is more UV resistant but most importantly much less stretchy than silnylon, especially when wet.
    Jan 30, 2020 at 2:31 am #3629296
    Franco Darioli
    BPL Member

    @franco

    Locale: Gauche, CU.

    Years ago I posted that I did not know of any  present or future (on the horizon)  tent  fabric that only has plusses and no minuses.

    One of the resident experts got his knickers into a knot about that, funny thing is that I have not changed my mind.

    But I’ll be blad when someone proves me wrong (in practice not just theory…)

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