Episode 23 | Henry Shires of Tarptent

Excellent interview. Henry mentioned not wanting to make DCF designs that produce a lot of waste. In a recent thread Henry stated that it’s a main reason for not producing DCF Protrails. Zpacks utilizes most of their DCF waste by making stuff sacks.

Tarptent needs to start offering a camo DCF option just like MLD, Zpacks and Trekkertent does. I’d be on board then.

Good interview.  At one point Henry alluded to the question “what haven’t we solved yet” being one driver of new designs.  I’ll offer one:  2-person, 2-door, 2-wall tent light enough and long enough for one tall dude, sorta like the Saddle 2 but not as discontinued. :-)

2-person, 2-door, 2-wall tent light enough and long enough for one tall dude,

I hear you …

-H

“what haven’t we solved yet”

I’m sure you’ve heard this before (meaning I’ve emailed Henry about it in the past) but the thing I want is a side entry tent that is either stuffable or has very short pitchlock struts. I want it to fit sideways in a small volume pack. That’s the holy grail, imo.

Help me, Obi Wan Shirenobi. You’re my only hope.

No one seems to take advantage of the fact that many people sharing a 2 or 3 person tent cary 4 trekking poles between them.  2 person trekking pole tents generally use only 2 poles.

Seems like 4 poles could give you a more storm worthy structure with smaller panels and better tension.  It could also offer more area with a high ceiling, especially above the face when laying down.

I want it to fit sideways in a small volume pack.

Yes, noted.  Are you ok if the pichloc(s) is/are easily detachable and foldable (and stored vertically) ?

Seems like 4 poles could give you a more storm worthy structure with smaller panels and better tension

We actually did that for the Saddle 2.  There are upsides (as you noted) and downsides (increased setup complexity/requirements).  My feeling is that for large (3/4 person) tents the upside can exceed the downside.

Henry, removing the pitchlocks concerns me. I’d hate to drop them somewhere.

Nice interview. I think a v2 of the Saddle would be pretty interesting. IMO, all of the downsides with the v1 were solvable.

Thanks, Guys, a good podcast! Thanks!

Good interview and interesting discussion. After the X-Mid came out, I thought we had seen basically all there was to trekking pole tents. And then came the Aeon Li. I’m still holding out for a non-DCF version :)

Shelters are an interesting optimization problem, and something I’ve gone round and round with as I’ve backpacked through different environments and weather conditions. I want a shelter to be light, but still durable and storm-worthy and easy to pack. I want it to have a small footprint, but still have room to live and be easy to set up. There’s a lot demanded from a shelter. I’ve come to the oft-quoted conclusion that there is no perfect tent.

I have owned several Shires creations and they have all been superb.

Thanks Henry for years of producing highly usable, light, and relatively inexpensive shelters.  Both my wallet and feet thank you.

“I’m still holding out for a non-DCF version :)”

Me too.  I bet the weight might be 3 or so oz more but be more durable and much less expensive.

And I’m waiting for two things:

1. green (or tan) colored DCF in the Notch Li
2. silpoly fabric in one or two tents to see how well it works. Polyester is more UV resistant but most importantly much less stretchy than silnylon, especially when wet.

Years ago I posted that I did not know of any  present or future (on the horizon)  tent  fabric that only has plusses and no minuses.

One of the resident experts got his knickers into a knot about that, funny thing is that I have not changed my mind.

But I’ll be blad when someone proves me wrong (in practice not just theory…)

I carry two Notch Li tents when there are two of us traveling together.  Some claim I snore, I sure know others do.  Setting up a few yards apart helps with that a lot.  Another trick I’ve used is to carry a dcf tarp of 8X10, and set it up spanning the two Notch Li tents.  Creates a huge space for hanging out, playing cards, boiling water, you know, when the weather sucks, or you just get lazy, or it gets dark too early.  For me two tents is the trick, not a single “two man” made is truly as comfortable for two people as two Notch Li tents.

I just want to add my voice here to those who think highly of Henry Shires and his tents.  And I want to underscore that his customer service is also exemplary.  It’s not a surprise at all that he is here on these boards, answering questions and taking notes.  It’s how he runs his business.  thanks, Henry.