- Sep 5, 2019 at 1:53 pm #3609049
A couple of years ago my postal delivery lady asked if I would place a couple of dryer sheets in my mailbox to keep the yellow jackets from setting up camp there. It seemed to work. It was a terrible year for those little pests.
Then a few days ago I met a couple of lady pals that I occasionally see while walking around in my favorite local open spaces. We were talking about yellow jackets, and I mentioned my postal gal’s trick. One of the ladies said, “DON’T do that! They’re poisonous!” Who knew? Maybe that’s why the yellow jackets don’t like them.
Sep 5, 2019 at 2:53 pm #3609056
- This reply was modified 2 weeks ago by Gary Dunckel.
^^^ so don’t use a deterrent in your mailbox? How does that compare to the alternatives where some people spray their nests and kill them all or getting stung ( including the mailman and/or neighbors) ?Sep 5, 2019 at 3:22 pm #3609063
Lester MooreBPL Member
@satoriLocale: Olympic Peninsula, WA
This is why i dont talk to people on the trail.
On crowded trails I’ve adopted a smile and head nod as the preferred greeting for passersby – it’s polite and efficient. But I’ll talk with folks who start up a conversation or ask a question.
On the rare occasion somebody makes a uncomfortable comment I remind myself that it says a lot more about them than about me. I often end up feeling sorry for the person because life must be harder if they are carrying around judgementalism or other emotional burdens and lack the social skills to keep it to themselves.
Dryer sheets! An enduring term for day hikers. Or, more precisely, tourists close to a TH.
Glad I’m not the only one who finds that intense artificial dryer sheet smell repulsive. As much as I dislike being stung by hornets nearly every August in the Olympics, I can’t bring myself to carry dryer sheets on the outside of my backpack, even if they work.Sep 5, 2019 at 4:57 pm #3609070
Kat, I did that because I like my mail lady. She said that she and several of her co-workers had been stung multiple times when opening mailboxes to deliver letters.
That year, I placed 2 yellow jackets traps in my back yard, and I kept track of how many I killed – 750 from April to October! Like I said, it was a bumper crop that year. Most years I’m just snagging about 2/day per trap – far less than in 2017.Sep 5, 2019 at 7:34 pm #3609086
Katherine .BPL Member
Who knew what I’d learn on this thread? Now I’ll be packing emergency dryer sheets.Sep 6, 2019 at 12:00 am #3609108
Just to clarify…I was calling out the lady that had a problem with your deterrent…Sep 6, 2019 at 12:25 am #3609109
Tom KBPL Member
Why respond at all? Maybe just smile pleasantly and keep on trucking? No need to get into an interaction that might end up taking the edge off both of your days in a beautiful place. Let him go his smug way thinking he just enlightened you, while you continue taking beautiful pictures, all the while secure in the knowledge that you know exactly why you added that weight to your load.
“That year, I placed 2 yellow jackets traps in my back yard, and I kept track of how many I killed – 750 from April to October! Like I said, it was a bumper crop that year. Most years I’m just snagging about 2/day per trap – far less than in 2017.”
You wiped out 750 of Mother Nature’s most efficient garden pest predators. I used to have the same attitude, because I have had my share of losing encounters with the little ba$tards up in the Cascades, and once had to esort to the same tactic when they set up a nest that made it risky to harvest my raspberries. But overall, I have come to appreciate them for their place in the broader community of living creatures. Not an easy decision. I’m only posting this to perhaps broaden your perspective, not as a criticism, because believe me I understand where you’re coming from.Sep 6, 2019 at 2:07 pm #3609163
Tom, I’ll have to study up on the overall effect of yellow jackets in the ecosystem. Up until now I’ve just seen them as rather aggressive pests that chase off the hummingbirds from their feeder, fly around my face (and my cat’s, when I had one), and otherwise make a nuisance of themselves. But if they have some redeeming qualities, I should know about them.Sep 11, 2019 at 11:37 pm #3609857
I have run into people like that as well. Take them with a grain of salt. At the end of the day, what matters is that we all love hiking. Some people love carrying more gear than others and UNDERSTAND what their objectives for being in the backcountry are, while there are admittedly many that seem to have one foot in the hiking-big-miles world and one foot in the backpacking-is-why-I’m-here world.
Sounds like you know who you are. That’s good! That right there is a WIN! For me, I bring the gear I need to meet my objectives and goals. Most of the time, I’m between 7-7.5 lbs as a base weight, and other times, I creep up to 8 – 8.5 pounds and bring Moment lenses with me. Doesn’t bother me much to bring them IF they are serving a purpose.
Happy trails!Sep 12, 2019 at 4:29 am #3609905
I was crossing a small creek this year on the JMT, and a guy was standing on the other side, watching me cross. He then commented on what hiking poles I should be using, instead of the ones I had with me (cheapos). One pole tip had slipped just a bit on a rock midstream, no big deal to me. I just said, okay thanks, and kept walking. He asked me where I’d come from, and I said Donahue pass. He asked where I was going, but I ignored him at that point, getting a bit of a creepster vibe at so many questions without any attempt at a real conversation. A little later I noticed he was following me. I pulled off trail and let him pass, then later passed him again. He then told me he had been going the wrong direction and realized it after talking to me. After that he seemed a bit more normal. Maybe the weird gear comment was nervousness? I hiked faster than he did, so I never saw him again.
The only other comment anyone made about my gear was a gal I met in Lyell canyon, coming toward me. She noticed we both had the same pack so we stopped to chat and I asked her how it was holding up (she was doing the PCT). All others I talked to just focused on what they had seen, where they had been, or how far it was to somewhere. All pretty friendly, except for a few souls who looked utterly exhausted. I didn’t burden them with chitchat!Sep 18, 2019 at 6:19 pm #3610721
Tipi WalterBPL Member
What Paul N calls Lightsplaining I call Fat Shaming. It happens alot but for me it mostly happens on internet forums—and happens often here on BPL.
Want to carry an 8 lb tent? You’ll get a boatload of opinions on how it’s both wrong and stupid. Want to pull a 3 week trip with 50 lbs of food and several books and pull 4 or 5 miles a day?? You’ll be up against Trail Gurus recommending pulling 3 day trips with 2 days of food and 30 mile days with a 10 lb pack.
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