- Sep 1, 2019 at 9:53 pm #3608546Paul NBPL Member
@nasvikLocale: SF, CA
After many long days of hiking in Kings Canyon we were trudging up the hot and dry Kearsarge Pass Trail to spend our last night at Kearsarge Lakes. Coming down the trail was a trio led by a guy with all UL gear who greeted us with “The problem is your camera is too heavy!” I replied that some things are worth it, and pointed out the ancient external frame Kelty pack on his friend. We moved on.
But it still bugs me. Of all the unsolicited comments likely I can’t think of one that most violates the concept of Hike Your Own Hike. Do other people run into this on trail? Is it Lightsplaining? Why do people feel the need to inject their unsolicited opinion? Frankly THAT GUY was the rudest casual encounter I’ve had on trail.
My gear is all UL and minimal. My camera is an A6000 chosen for its weight. It gives me something to do besides walk and it makes me happy even if it adds a couple of pound of gear. It’s my hike.
Photo: Painted Lady from Middle Rae Lake, August 29, 2019Sep 1, 2019 at 9:57 pm #3608547Paul NBPL Member
@nasvikLocale: SF, CA
What am I missing about editing a post? Anyway here’s the photo.Sep 1, 2019 at 10:03 pm #3608548Franco DarioliBPL Member
@francoLocale: Gauche, CU.
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Some people have a real hard time understanding that we don’t all hike for the exact same reason.
Many years ago someone was lecturing me about my LW gear (almost light…) because there is no need to go fast on a trail. I told him that I did not want to go faster, just wanted to carry less weight.Sep 1, 2019 at 11:01 pm #3608551Todd TBPL Member
@texasbbLocale: Pacific Northwest
The only thing worse than someone lecturing you on the trail is letting it get to you. I just add the humorous anecdote to my repertoire and enjoy the hike.Sep 1, 2019 at 11:38 pm #3608556jscottBPL Member
@bookLocale: Northern California
nmSep 2, 2019 at 1:05 am #3608573MJ HBPL Member
Not letting things get to you is great, but if you can’t manage that, it might have been possible to have put a big rock in his pack. Maybe if you asked him to help look at your gear to see if anything else was to heavy, he would be distracted for a bit.Sep 2, 2019 at 1:25 am #3608575Ken ThompsonBPL Member
@hereLocale: Right there
A camera is too heavy for the phone does everything crowd. It’s a person’s opinion why give it weight?Sep 2, 2019 at 1:34 am #3608576MattBPL Member
@mhrLocale: San Juan Mtns.
The weight of his comment is burdening you way more than the camera. Reducing that load is where the real payoff lies. Happy trails.Sep 2, 2019 at 2:55 pm #3608607Jeffs ElevenBPL Member
Just tell him that he’s ugly, and you can buy a lighter camera.Sep 2, 2019 at 3:58 pm #3608619Chris HBPL Member
@chrishLocale: Somewhere on the Virginia A.T.
Paul, what an awesome picture! I keep saying I’m gonna re-invest in a good DSLR or mirror-less camera for my trips. I got rid of all my ‘good’ cameras when phones started getting so good. But you still can’t get this type of shot with a phone, just not gonna happen, yet. I suppose someday maybe.
I wouldn’t sweat it. You’ve got that picture, and I’m sure other great ones form your trip. The guy you passed is probably curled up on a couch somewhere, slobbering over his lighter pack list while he pulls every other bristle out of his short handled toothbrush with a pair of titanium tweezers.Sep 2, 2019 at 8:14 pm #3608652Doug CoeBPL Member
@sierradougLocale: Bay Area, CA, USA
Maybe it got to you because you do put effort into selecting lightweight gear, and his comment made it seem like he couldn’t see or appreciate that. Being misunderstood generally feels bad.
Plus, it was unsolicited criticism (by far too common), and he was just being a total jerk.Sep 2, 2019 at 9:51 pm #3608672David ThomasBPL Member
@davidinkenaiLocale: North Woods. Far North.
Someone on the spectrum was on the trail.Sep 3, 2019 at 3:17 am #3608713Paul WagnerBPL Member
@balzaccomLocale: Wine Country
Take a deep breath and remember why you are backpacking. Then tell the guy that your photos are so much better than his because you use a real camera instead of a toy.Sep 3, 2019 at 1:23 pm #3608744Monte MastersonBPL Member
@septimiusLocale: Changes Often
It all depends on how much first-rate pics mean to you. If they’re going to be published then yes the extra weight is worth it. If not I’d say the guy was right. He was probably only trying to be funny, but many a true thing is said in jest. I wouldn’t be overly sensitive about it. Consider the source.
Now if his tone was aggressive and he was trying to impress his buddies, then I’d say “let me explain some basic photography 101 to you.” Next I’d throw in a few quick technical terms and say “oh, but you wouldn’t understand about such things because your knowledge on the subject is, well, simple, lol. And I’d make sure the laugh at the end was done in a way that implies the guy is stupid.Sep 3, 2019 at 4:31 pm #3608776Katherine .BPL Member
Sounds like he was trying to be funny and bombed.
But it’s easier to let it go once we’ve nailed down the perfect retort for next time.Sep 3, 2019 at 9:13 pm #3608836Dena KelleyBPL Member
@eagleriverdeeLocale: Eagle River, Alaska
Is it obvious that in every other way you go UL? I’m guessing it probably is. In which case, I agree with above he probably meant to come across as funny, not critical, and felt you were a fellow UL’er that would get the joke. I dunno. Sometimes it’s best to assume the best of people rather than the worst, in this case by assuming he saw in you a kindred spirit that would get the joke.Sep 3, 2019 at 11:04 pm #3608850Jeffs ElevenBPL Member
This is why i dont talk to people on the trail. Pack weights get misconstrued, presumed insults are hurled, feelings are in a state of flux for the next 5 miles. ‘What did he say? What did he mean?’ Skip all that.
‘Hi. You smell like dryer sheets. Have a nice hike.’
Sometimes i ask about water availability. But i rarely trust em.Sep 3, 2019 at 11:17 pm #3608852KatttBPL Member
^^^ that made me laugh. I can relate a little bit.Sep 4, 2019 at 12:04 am #3608855matthew kModerator
lol dryer sheets?Sep 4, 2019 at 2:55 am #3608879Jim CBPL Member
@jimothyLocale: Georgia, USA
After a day or two on the trail, I doubt I smell anything close to dryer sheets.Sep 5, 2019 at 12:26 am #3609002Five StarBPL Member
@mammomanLocale: NE AL
Coming down from Dragon’s Tooth, I encountered some ill-prepared-looking day hikers heading up. They stopped me and asked how it was, and I told them they were going to die. They huddled nervously for a minute and then turned around and left. I had been semi-joking, and I felt like shizzle for possibly ruining a great day for them. I learned to keep my humor to myself until relationships are better established.Sep 5, 2019 at 12:46 am #3609005Alex WallaceBPL Member
@feetfirstLocale: Sierra Nevada North
Dryer sheets! An enduring term for day hikers. Or, more precisely, tourists close to a TH. I don’t know about you, but after I’ve been out for a couple of days my nose is really sensitive to all those manufactured smelly things common to life at home (e.g. dryer sheets, fabric softeners, soap, perfume, etc.). I can usually smell them before I even see them.Sep 5, 2019 at 2:46 am #3609022Todd TBPL Member
@texasbbLocale: Pacific Northwest
The only thing I know of that stinks worse than a dryer sheet is the clothes it was dried with. What evil sadist invented those things?Sep 5, 2019 at 3:12 am #3609024matthew kModerator
Yeah I’m not exactly sure what those smell like (bad soap perfume?) or why they exist. I vaguely remember my parents using them as a kid but I never used them once I was old enough to do my own laundry.Sep 5, 2019 at 1:16 pm #3609040KatttBPL Member
Aren’t drier sheets used to avoid static electricity on your clothes?
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