How many BPL’ers wear KILTS?

Matt, relax! Chads just poking fun. I've found it quite humorous (I like the rapper kilt–that's a good look!–ok that was sarcasm.). There are much better examples of threads where people are being mean here on BPL.

Back on track, the ElKommando arrived today. Glad I upsized as I was between a L and XL. The XL fits comfortably. Seems good. Length is right for me (6'1"). Seems to drape ok. I have no basis of comparison. I didn't have to lay on the ground to put it on, so that was a bonus.

Did wearing it today make me feel more manly? Not particularly. Less? No…but I'll have to see how hard my wife laughs when she gets home. Would I wear it to my daughters high school softball games….no I don't think so. That might be misconstrued the wrong way. Eeesh!

But working out back or hiking in the woods…maybe. We'll see once it gets warmer.

Brian I think you should take a video or at least pictures of your wife when she first sees you in the kilt. :)

I know my wife laughed the first time I modeled my ULA rain wrap (it's kilt-ish) for her. Come to think of it I'm not sure if she was laughing with me or at me. :/

Unfortunately, I don't have a picture of myself actually hiking, but here's me on the ferry at VVR in my hiking skirt.

The nice thing about the ElKommando kilt that the female Utili-Kilt doesn't appear to have is room to actually move. I'd like to be able to climb over a fallen tree, thanks. The ElKommando is pretty comfortable. I don't know what benefits a man gets from a kilt, but the benefits I get are thus:

1. Less cheek exposure when peeing (sans my "device")
2. More mobility than shorts or pants (none of that low hanging crotch business)
3. No bunching and riding up around my fat thighs like shorts
4. Hides fat thighs better
And the best one of all:
5. Skipping down the trail in a skirt and a tiny pack really makes the macho 60lb pack haulers frightened and embarrassed. I can imagine them thinking, "How can that little chick make it look so easy? Why are we such big scardey cats we have to haul around so much gear? Ha, we'll show her. Let's try to catch up to her and pass her and show her we're strong and manly." Ha! They'll catch me when I'm kicking back at the top of a pass, maybe, if they even make it that far. I love being so petty and mean-spirited.

I recommend a nanoseeum mesh brief during bug season – especially if you are a male.

Piper you an Matt should hang out cuz' discuss the voices in your heads; number five on your list is all on your own mind. ;)

Besides your pack sure doesn’t look small. Especially compared to the other guy in the photo. (UL slap to the face) :P

My Kilt Thread

I have made several kilts to include one “Great Kilt”. Most of the ladies I have been around with a kilt on seem to approve. My family on my fathers side can trace their linage back to Scotland and have a plaid pattern. The Black Watch Plaid I used for the kilt in the pictures is sort of common with the military and law enforcement. My Great Kilt (not pictured) is made of the same material.

My silk kilt weighs 1.9 ounces (white silk that I then dyed black) is very nice in warm to hot weather but you may need a good supply of bug spray.

"the only thing cajones are good for is makin' sperm. :P"

The only thing "cajones" are good for is serving as containers for the transportation or organization of objects or, if they're big enough, serving as a club house for pre teen boys. "Cojones", OTOH, enable a far more interesting activity. ;-)

"I'm sensing a lot of hostility (insecurity?) in the last few posts. It's gettin' pretty mean around here. How about we get back on topic? How many people hike with a kilt?"

I think inferring insecurity to naysayers is itself mean-spirited hostility. No, I don't wear a kilt and never will. I think it's plain ugly — although I fully respect those who think otherwise. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Just about the only thing here I don't respect is this notion associating a kilt either with manliness or the lack thereof. It's a piece of apparel. :)

"the only thing cajones are good for is makin' sperm. :P"

The only thing "cajones" are good for is serving as containers for the transportation or organization of objects or, if they're big enough, serving as a club house for pre teen boys. "Cojones", OTOH, enable a far more interesting activity. ;-)

Oops. But I did not say that's the only they are good for. Just that the only activity that "takes" cojones is that :)

"Just about the only thing here I don't respect is this notion associating a kilt either with manliness or the lack thereof"

Manliness, or lack thereof, will be painfully apparent if one wears a kilt. ;)

"Just that the only activity that "takes" cojones is that :)"

I know. I was just being a picky old man. ;-)

@ Chad – I think her response would best be described as a cautiously bemused chuckle. No video was obtained.
@ Ben – +1 to your last paragraph. Merely a different garment.

> number five on your list is all on your own mind.

No, it's not. I had people say all kinds of stuff to me during that hike in my little skirt and sandals.

Half the people I met apologized to me for carrying such heavy loads even though I was totally minding my own business and never said a word to them.

Lots of people made comments to me, such things as "That creek didn't even slow you down" or "I've been trying to catch you but you are the strongest hiker I've ever seen." I tried to tell that guy I'm not strong, I'm just carrying a light pack so it's easier for me.

I had people, when I passed them, say all kinds of things, from excuses to expressions of jealousy. I had a lot of people assume I was a dayhiker, too.

I had one guy stop and question me because for many years he's never been able to get to the other side of Bishop Pass. He knew his pack weighed him down but didn't know how to do it lighter so he could go further. He was really interested in how I managed to go so light.

I met others with light packs who understood. Okay, maybe one person. Most people labored under the largest loads I've ever seen. I couldn't believe how many people I saw with full day packs strapped to their full backpacks. People rest-stepped the entire JMT. It was shocking.

The fast guys chased me. When I kept plodding up the trail and meeting up with them again, they just couldn't believe it. They made comments. They finally passed me once and for all but I'm sure they were killing themselves to do it.

All in my head? No, it wasn't. I didn't make any friends on that trip except with this one lady who had the biggest pack of them all and hiked in her bare feet. She was AWESOME! Put my sandals to shame. Put us all to shame. Been hiking the trails all summer every summer barefoot since she was 16 years old. She was about 50 now.

Thanks to this thread (and a dude I backpack with who swears by his kilt), I've ordered my first kilt and I'm ready to try this out.

Main reason: last summer I struggled with a rash on my legs during long-distance, hot weather outings. I have no idea if the kilt will help solve this, but I'm willing to give it a try. If nothing else, it'll be much easier to keep my legs clean.

What happened to the 2011 gear purchase moratorium?

REI Dividend. I didn't BUY, anything . . . (Good catch!)

ken t

we are expecting you to be wearing one at the 4th anual bay area bpl ers trip

tony wongs camera will be full of pictures of that lol

kevin

"REI Dividend. I didn't BUY, anything . . . (Good catch!)"

Ah, the fine print….. ;-)

The human capacity to rationalize away almost anything… :)

Besides, if I throw on a pair of heels and a wig, the kilt doubles as my Saturday evening outfit. Then it's not even gear anymore!

Pipper S wrote:
"> number five on your list is all on your own mind.

No, it's not. I had people say all kinds of stuff to me during that hike in my little skirt and sandals.

Half the people I met apologized to me for carrying such heavy loads even though I was totally minding my own business and never said a word to them.

Lots of people made comments to me, such things as "That creek didn't even slow you down" or "I've been trying to catch you but you are the strongest hiker I've ever seen." I tried to tell that guy I'm not strong, I'm just carrying a light pack so it's easier for me.

I had people, when I passed them, say all kinds of things, from excuses to expressions of jealousy. I had a lot of people assume I was a dayhiker, too.

I had one guy stop and question me because for many years he's never been able to get to the other side of Bishop Pass. He knew his pack weighed him down but didn't know how to do it lighter so he could go further. He was really interested in how I managed to go so light.

I met others with light packs who understood. Okay, maybe one person. Most people labored under the largest loads I've ever seen. I couldn't believe how many people I saw with full day packs strapped to their full backpacks. People rest-stepped the entire JMT. It was shocking.

The fast guys chased me. When I kept plodding up the trail and meeting up with them again, they just couldn't believe it. They made comments. They finally passed me once and for all but I'm sure they were killing themselves to do it.

All in my head? No, it wasn't. I didn't make any friends on that trip except with this one lady who had the biggest pack of them all and hiked in her bare feet. She was AWESOME! Put my sandals to shame. Put us all to shame. Been hiking the trails all summer every summer barefoot since she was 16 years old. She was about 50 now."

I'm not reading that.

Sorry, everyone, but i have been out hiking (in my kilt). No offense meant (or taken) by my last post. I assumed it was all in fun and that's how i meant my post, too. I just wanted to get back to the original topic of hiking kilts.

Tim Marshall and i are working on a Dyneema sporran for hiking. The tassels will be made out of braided paracord. Decorative AND multi-functional! Hopefully it will come in under 5 ounces and allow me to carry all my crap :)

Something like this? ;)

Marshall is making it? Make it out of cuben, it'll definitely come out under 8oz.

At this stage there is no going back to the OP. :P

"Thanks to this thread (and a dude I backpack with who swears by his kilt), I've ordered my first kilt and I'm ready to try this out.

Main reason: last summer I struggled with a rash on my legs during long-distance, hot weather outings. I have no idea if the kilt will help solve this, but I'm willing to give it a try. If nothing else, it'll be much easier to keep my legs clean."

Evan,
That's AWESOME! Good for you for being brave enough to "hike your own hike". Some guys JUST DON"T GET IT. Don't listen to the nay-Sayers…you'll have the last laugh, especially when you roll into camp with no chaffing and get all the ladies attention :)

This is the way a kilt works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApXJoGUkkds&playnext=1&list=PL6C695DC3DC7EE96C