4 Season Ultra Light Extreme Weather Shelter System

That’s one of the problems with Cuben Fiber. It has no stretch and can puncture. On the other hand, nylon fabric has lots of stretch, absorbs the energy, and bounces back.
Mostly.

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I’m only giving opinions based on my personal experience; but I have backed right away from SUL for Alpine winters.

Bad experiences in the past have convinced me to plan and pack for the very worst conditions that could happen in my AoO , at the best I have a little more comfort, at the worst I survive.

At their worst those SUL tents are more like large bivvy sacks, this is why we used to call them monkey coffins, all I think Roger is saying is that in bad conditions Strength and Simplicity and Stability become more important that base weight.

The combinations of 200klick wind gusts and metre + snowfalls are what sent me in this direction and for some reason or other these 1 in a 100 years storms seem to happen to me at least once each season and because mountain weather is not totally predictable you cannot assume good weather even if such is forecast

Hike your own hike naturally but I think the weights you are talking about are at least a decade away; maybe more and will probably use micro-reactive nanotechnology and while light may well be more bulky than current offerings

Dunno about the ‘coffin’ bit. The two of us LIVE in our tents. And quite comfortably too.

I think Roger is saying is that in bad conditions Strength and Simplicity and Stability become more important than base weight.
Absolutely. Up there you can’t play fancy games with saving another 100 g. (Well, you can – at your risk.)
These two photos were taken about 12 hours apart. The evening was lovely – if you ignore the cloud bank building up behind the Range. Overnight we had strong wind and machine gun hail for hours. In the morning – well, that’s the right hand photo. The hail and snow was still going when I took this photo.

Now, in some places you can count on this not happening – well, not likely to happen. But it CAN happen in the mountains. Someone did die not too far away from the tent site, many years ago.

This tent was modelled after the Olympus. The design works.

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Here is the link to the current model Olympus

It is neither UL or ultra modern but it does work and if you could substitute carbon fibre wands that would save a couple of hundred grams, titanium pegs another 50 g or so

I myself use the Minaret or I will until it dies in another season or two

https://www.macpac.com.au/equipment/tents/tramping-hiking-tents/olympus-alpine-tent.html

“Send me the instructions if you dont have the time to make it”

Never mind the hundreds of hours you spent developing it and money to boot.

Chill out dude. You are not the first with these ‘revelations’. If money is no object to you, hire a designer and go your own road with all these ideas (that have all been thought of, built, tested, deemed not to work well enough to have the safety neccessary in said conditions)

with respect, i say to you: chill out. You are asking a man for tons of intellectual property in a non chalant manner. (Pretty callous, which im sure wasnt your intention, jus sayin…)

not meant to offen you or anyone, just have to say my unsolicited opinion.

Michael

I really really like that tent. How does it compare to the olympus ?
You really, really need to read our BPL review of tunnel tents. So many of your questions are answered there.
Briefly, the Minaret is NOT as stable as the Olympus. It has only 2 poles instead of 3.

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Hit it up then, chief.

Dont forget to post your results.

I agree with Roger, the Minaret is a compromise, I use it because I solo 90% of the time and it save weight. Roger; I did think there were some new CF poles on the market that would take that curve or I’d not have mentioned it.

The Lightwave tent made from Cuben looks interesting but it wouldn’t work for me, too much ice shrapnel around me when the wind blows hard

Re: hot tents. I had a set up like that for some years.  They are a fair amount of work and a more than a bit potentially dangerous.  Overall though, I do like them, but not so much for casual weekend trips.  I still have my titanium wood stove, and will be modifying my Oware pyramid tent for use with same, but I plan to keep the Ti stove in my bug out bag primarily (especially since finding out that Ti definitely wears out and gets brittle with use–didn’t know that when I originally bought it years ago).

For those casual trips, I much would prefer the ease and convenience of a couple candles and/or a little cooker plus insulation for warmth.

The really nice thing about real hot tents with stoves, pipes, etc–probably their primary benefit is not warmth per se, but the ability to dry things out well. Otherwise, they are extremely energy inefficient because of the severe lack of insulation.

Nope, when I’m cold, wet, and/or tired on a casual weekend trip, I don’t really want to be hunting around for significant amounts of dry’ish wood.
Just light me up a couple of candles and I’ll slap some slippers on my feet…got to find a reason, a reason why my ideas are so wrong, got to find a reason why my money’s not all gone (fairly inexpensive project).

I’ve read about the White Mountains, apart from the colder temperatures they seem like my normal

Some of the most extreme weather recorded on the Earth as been on or near the summit of Mt. Washington in the Whites.  200+ mph winds, arctic like temps, etc.

While I’ve hiked Mt. Washington and generally in the Whites a fair amount when I was younger (I’m originally from MA), I’ve never done so in winter, but it’s something that I hope to someday work towards skill and knowledge wise.

If I ever do, I’ll probably bring a tunnel tent. ; )

There’s a video somewhere of the balcony of the restaurant on Mt W.

Tables, table cloth, cutlery, wine glasses.
The wind starts blowing, getting stronger.
The wine glasses go.
The plates go.
The cutlery goes.
The tablecloth goes.
The chairs roll away.
Then the tables go.
Amusing stuff.

We get winds a little bit like that. Sue has trouble standing up when the wind gets much over 100 kph. One saddle, we crawled across.

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