Carrying Your Sh*t

I think this was an old and valid thread that happened to be at the top of the queue, and because of the similar, yet unique subject matter, got lumped into the offending thread category.

No, Jeff, I didn't lump it. Johnny Legend spammed this thread with his biffy bag post. It's now buried in the previous page cause folks keep adding new posts.

This thread was reignited late Monday night, Australian time, on a three day weekend. Good chance Roger is still out walking. I do note that the guy who reignited it has changed his name. A bit weird.

"they are easy to dig in most areas."

They are most certainly not easy to dig in the areas of the Cascades I have visited, at least not below timberline. The soil tends to be a mass of tightly interwoven roots which can be quite difficult to penetrate, even with the adze of an ice ax. I generally look for a log or a largish rock to roll over. In the Sierra I use large rocks exclusively. It's easier, requires no extra piece of gear, and has the added advantage of keeping the material closer to the surface, where there is more O2 available for our teeny aerobic friends who break it down. The top 4 inches of soil is where aerobic bacteria operate most effectively.

If you are packing poo anyway…

Has anyone thought about utilizing this predictable source of fuel and leaving HEAVY alcohol, gas, or esbit tablets at home? :)

I think that this thread is the sh*t. I have never seen so many people get serious about this topic. I found the po*op tubes in the climbing forum quite helpful although quite like a bear can. Using plastic grocery bags to get the job done is a revelation to me. Wag bags work great for their intended purpose.
I find something especially repulsive about 'stumbling' upon human waste. For one thing, I always clean up others people's messes but I ain't touchin' that.
BJ

Ben, I nominate you to invent the world's first poo-powered backpacking stove.

But don't send me any used stoves for testing…

Make your own carry-out bag kit:

https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/funksacs-funkguard-xl-mylar-foil-bags/

Digging deep Dan, digging deep.

Spring is here….pack-it out. Just a reminder for you Ken. I’ll dig a little deeper for ya

Google works!

I hiked Paria/Buckskin Gulch a couple of years ago. We had wag bags. I never used mine before I was out of the wag bag zone. A wag bag would be the best option. It’s very durable and comes with chemicals to reduce the unpleasantness, plus there was some TP and wet wipes. They make wag bags so that people will use them. Anything else you try to tinker together isn’t going to have been engineered with the squeamishness of the general public combined with the necessity of protecting the natural environment in mind.

I posted this before but I am not going to visit areas where burying your poo ( the right way) is not enough. I am a mammal and like other mammals I dispose of the stuff , I do not take it with me.

I wish dogs would dispose of their stuff. Dog ownwers are asked to pick up after them because dog mammals dont dispose of their stuff….they just pretend to cover it 

we’ve all seen it, and it ain’t pretty. // Photo: Harpo from the Wrong Way Gang

I suspect that packing it out will become the increasing norm.

I was pretty disgusted hiking the Lost Coast in the summer years ago.  Just about every decent beach campsite I found soon revealed itself to be a human litterbox…stench, used TP, and all that good stuff.  Maybe this is a seasonal issue?  If you look at the numbers in high use areas, combined with the fact that trails and established campsites tend to funnel people and create areas of habitual $hitting, I foresee a problem on the horizon that I wouldn’t be too surprised seeing more parks address.  Already a lot of evidence of poop mayhem in some of the main corridors in the High Sierra.

I am less and less interested in hiking on popular trails, which is where the exposed TP problems are.  If packing your poo becomes the norm in parks I will avoid those too. Don’t worry, I will not come soil your zoo ;)

Exposed crap with TP is a problem.  Proper practices do not produce those sights. We have been over this before..

Why pack it?  I’m going to learn to roll it out. I draw the line at raising my offspring in it though.

There are still plenty of places where you don’t have to put up with this $hit.  Just sit down with a map of the Sierra, The Cascades or other ranges, and it will quickly become obvious that there is an ample amount of terrain where the the time tested equation:  Number of people = 1/distance from nearest trail raised to the third power.  It follows that as the number of people decreases exponentially, so does their litter and waste.  Works for me.

Wonder how Ryan disposes of his.

He doesn’t sh!t. He just meditates and makes it go away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhCt-HJLLto

That’s what we need to do Doug :-)

The mammal method:

^^^ looks like you need a wormicide Dan.

Move to Chaff.