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Tarptent Scarp1 (4 season -freestanding)

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PostedNov 20, 2008 at 2:52 pm

Martin, I think end first into the wind is a more streamlined face to the wind but there are pullouts along each side of the arch sleeve to resist side deflection too. As for wind speeds, probably something on the order of 40 mi/hr (65 km/hr)is about all I've experienced with the single pole setup. The crossing poles do add a substantial amount of fabric support and I have no doubt the the Scarp will take higher wind speeds with those installed.

Roger, the inner tent is 86 in (218cm) long with 15 in (38 cm) vertical end walls. Width is 32 in (81 cm). Peak height is 39 in (99 cm).

-H

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedNov 20, 2008 at 3:04 pm

Henry:

I think I did my good deed for the day (a 'penance' of sorts perhaps, as I assume you got my emails today). I forwarded this link to a fellow hiker with initials 'T.K.' residing in Washington — and he caved — emailing me back that he just bought one! Heh heh…

Ben.
The Gear Enabler.

PS: Can't claim credit for David Ure… who's 'always' the first to cave. :)

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedNov 20, 2008 at 3:32 pm

Wonder how it will go with a foot of snow on it? A rather flat roof and it won't shed the snow.

Henry – can you shut the windward one of the top vents *right* up to keep out spindrift? Bit sad if the stuff pours in.

Would need fine No-see-um mesh across the other one as well to keep the spindrift out. Is it there?

Is the inner tent full DWR fabric with zip closures, or are there mesh panels?

Cheers

PostedNov 20, 2008 at 3:54 pm

> Wonder how it will go with a foot of snow on it? A rather flat roof and it won't shed the snow.

Without the extra crossing poles, it wont handle much heavy snow very well and it is possible to collapse the shelter. Our "Sierra Cement" was a good test this last winter. With the crossing poles, you wont collapse the shelter but there's no doubt that you will want to reach up and whack the roof to keep the snow sliding and/or get out periodically and shovel.

> Henry – can you shut the windward one of the top vents *right* up to keep out spindrift? Bit sad if the stuff pours in.

Yes, both vents have outer clips/loops to keep the brim from blowing back and an interior clip/loop to pull up the underlying fabric edge and seal it against the vent.

>Would need fine No-see-um mesh across the other one as well to keep the spindrift out. Is it there?

Vents do not have a mesh backing. I opted for maximum ventilation/flowthrough.

> Is the inner tent full DWR fabric with zip closures, or are there mesh panels?

Inner tent is full DWR–calendared ripstop nylon–with triangular mesh windows at top of doors.

Rog Tallbloke BPL Member
PostedNov 20, 2008 at 4:10 pm

Looking at the angle of the guyline, it must be a centre strut. This tent has more sticks round it than a yurt. :-)

Henry: Not long enough! Tall hikers demand toe room!

PostedNov 20, 2008 at 4:23 pm

> the corner struts are in fact two angled struts, correct?

Yes, two angled struts, that meet at the top corner and are connected by a strap running under the canopy corner. It/they form a fixed geometry triangle.

> Is there also a center strut or is that a shadow from the guyline? Thanks

There is also an intermediate, single strut to support the midpoint of each rear edge. That strut is removable and the Scarp works fine without it for milder conditions. The Scarp ships with 6 stakes but will set up quite well with 4 stakes. There are also sleeve pullouts.

PostedNov 20, 2008 at 4:29 pm

For Roger
http://www.tarptent.com/scarp1_2.html
Cutaway dimensions.

I think that Quoddy has come up with the best line so far:
"If I didn't already own an excellent winter shelter, albeit heavier, I'd give this one a try"

Yeah, sure. Of course. We understand. Of course we believe you.
Franco

Rog Tallbloke BPL Member
PostedNov 20, 2008 at 4:29 pm

David, I'm so tall I'm the height of nonsense. I wriggle into a 6'6" bag because they don't make a longer one.

I'm sure you'll be fine in the scarp1.

PostedNov 20, 2008 at 4:52 pm

Roger,
WM offers a few models in 7' lengths. Check out the specs page and see which one might work for you.

PostedNov 20, 2008 at 6:50 pm

Henry,
Congratulations! Further proof that you are a genius!
BTW, you just shipped me a Rainbow, it's on the UPS truck!!

CW BPL Member
PostedNov 20, 2008 at 6:58 pm

First, can you set it up without the fly? It doesn't look like it but I wanted to check anyway.

Second, why have 2 doors and 2 vestibules on a 1 person tent? If it just had 1 of each and was closer to 2 pounds instead of 3 it'd be very close to the perfect shelter for me on solo trips. Pushing the 3 pound mark doesn't set it off much from the current line of lightweight 1 man doublewalls.

Mary D BPL Member
PostedNov 20, 2008 at 7:09 pm

My question exactly! Why does one person need two doors? Most of us can use only one at a time…. :-)

Henry, you are certainly coming out with new models galore! Congratulations on the latest launch!

PostedNov 20, 2008 at 7:14 pm

> First, can you set it up without the fly? It doesn't look like it but I wanted to check anyway.

The inner could be set up separately, I suppose, but it would require a separate set of struts and a pole strap. If that's something people wanted, it would be pretty easy to come up with a package for doing so.

> Second, why have 2 doors and 2 vestibules on a 1 person tent? If it just had 1 of each and was closer to 2 pounds instead of 3 it'd be very close to the perfect shelter for me on solo trips. Pushing the 3 pound mark doesn't set it off much from the current line of lightweight 1 man doublewalls.

Because who else does it and because it makes it much more usable in a pinch for two (or one and your favorite dog) and because venting options are so much better and because if it's blowing rain into one side or one side is frozen up you can just get out the other and .. [insert other reasons here] ..

Honestly, the additional vestibule and zippered entry is a pretty minimal weight addition (on the order of a couple of ounces). The space is "free" since the fabric passes over/around the arch pole anyway so the only "cost" is the weight of the zippers.

CW BPL Member
PostedNov 20, 2008 at 7:19 pm

Thanks for the fast response Henry!

The setup question was more curiousity than anything, I've never been able to get away with setting up a tent without the fly being on it. It never fails to rain on me.

If it's only a couple of ounces then I understand. I was thinking it would be more of a difference.

PostedNov 20, 2008 at 7:51 pm

Franco: >I think that Quoddy has come up with the best line so far:
"If I didn't already own an excellent winter shelter, albeit heavier, I'd give this one a try"

OK, Franco, you even got me to laugh at that. You've got to understand that for winter I had an Akto and then got a Soulo when it came out last winter. Give me a chance to at least get a few more snowstorms on it.

te – wa BPL Member
PostedNov 20, 2008 at 7:54 pm

[insert other reasons here]

secret escape hatch for when the tax man cometh…

gives your assistant a place to bail when you use your 'exploding ninja balls' during campsite magic shows

hey bear, now you see me, now you dont!

if youre drunk, you dont have to walk around your tent 2x to find a door. keep 'em both open, and fall in where you may

PostedNov 20, 2008 at 7:57 pm

That tent looks like a lot of fun.

any chance of a Scarp 2? I like to travel in company (the wife)

PostedNov 20, 2008 at 8:39 pm

> any chance of a Scarp 2? I like to travel in company (the wife)

Hmmm..well, I did put a "1" after the name. We'll see how it goes. There's another baby in the oven I have to kick out first.

-H

twig . BPL Member
PostedNov 20, 2008 at 9:07 pm

C'mon Henry,
Just give us a number on the new tent..1,2,3,4……

PostedNov 20, 2008 at 9:08 pm

"There's another baby in the oven I have to kick out first."
Ooooo! Care to share? Or do you want to remain a man of mystery?

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