Podcast Episode November 26, 2024

Episode 113 | Pad Pumps


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In episode 113 of the Backpacking Light Podcast, we talk about current PAD PUMP trends in the ultralight cottage industry, the challenges faced by small businesses during the holiday season plus a few interesting stocking stuffers.

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Nitecore NU20 Classic 360 Lumen USB-C Lightweight Headlamp

The Nitecore NU20 Classic Headlamp delivers 360 lumens of bright, consistent light with a lightweight design and USB-C rechargeable battery, offering reliable hands-free illumination for hikers and backpackers in demanding backcountry environments. Its compact form and efficient power management make it ideal for extended outdoor use.

WEIGHT: 1.34 ounces (38 g)
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Alpenglow Gear Alpenblow Micro Inflator

The Alpenblow Micro Inflator by Alpenglow Gear is a compact, rechargeable air pump designed for quick inflation of sleeping pads and other gear, offering efficient, hands-free performance with minimal weight for backcountry travelers. Its USB-charging capability ensures convenience on multi-day outdoor excursions.

WEIGHT: 0.28 ounces (8 g)
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Rex Creations Pad-Pal Air Pump

The Pad-Pal Air Pump by Rex Creations efficiently inflates sleeping pads with minimal effort using its compact, rechargeable design. Its lightweight build and integrated USB charging make it a convenient tool for hikers and backpackers seeking quick, reliable inflation on multi-day trips.

WEIGHT: 0.32 ounces (9 g)
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Flextail Zero Pump

Save your breath, and leave the bulk of an inflation bag at home. One of the few pumps that actually works well and is still very light, with a decent battery life. You'll get 15 to 25 mattress inflations on a single charge if you use a full-sized mattress.

WEIGHT: 1.2 oz (34 g)
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Nitecore NB10000 Gen 3 Power Bank

The Nitecore NB10000 Gen 3 Power Bank provides 10,000mAh of high-capacity, lightweight portable power with fast USB-C charging, designed for outdoor enthusiasts who need reliable energy for devices during extended trips in the backcountry. Its slim profile and durable construction offer efficient power management in rugged environments.

WEIGHT: 5.29 ounces (149.97 g)
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  • #3823074
    Backpacking Light
    Admin

    @backpackinglight

    Locale: Rocky Mountains

    Companion forum thread to: Podcast 113 | Pad Pumps

    In episode 113 of the Backpacking Light Podcast, we talk about current PAD PUMP trends in the ultralight cottage industry, the challenges faced by small businesses during the holiday season plus a few interesting stocking stuffers.

    #3823125
    Ryan Jordan
    Admin

    @ryan

    Locale: Central Rockies

    I know lots of people here use pumps like the Flextail, but curious to know if anyone has moved over to the little tiny ones powered by a battery bank, and what you think of that style.

    #3823133
    JG H
    BPL Member

    @jgh4

    I have the PadPal v5.2 and I love it. It’s super light and works like a champ. It’s a little loud on the highest setting, but that’s a small inconvenience given it’s size, weight, and functionality.

    I do have a zero pump, too, for weekenders when I don’t carry a power pack.

    #3823155
    Charlie Brenneman
    BPL Member

    @cwbrenneman

    Locale: Primarily Desolation Wilderness, Yosemite, and SEKI

    I think one of these might be an item I probably wouldn’t buy for myself, but is perfect for my girls to get me for Christmas. Even on a longer trip the battery life of my iPhone, Coros watch, headlamp, and inReach is so good I have juice left in my power bank so why not put it to use. Plus my jump to a wide pad from the regular width seems like more than 25% more breaths at the end of a long day!

    Anyone know how much louder the Pad Pal is versus Alpenglow? On lowest Pad Pal setting is it still loud, and what is roughly the time difference to inflate a pad at lowest vs highest setting?

    #3823177
    Tom “Gadget” Liggett
    BPL Member

    @alpenglowgear

    Locale: SF Bay Area

    There’s a video on Alpenglow Gear’s Instagram  (@alpenglow_gear) that demoes how loud the Alpenblow is. I haven’t seen a comparison vs. the Pad-Pal but it is much quieter (albeit slower) than a Flextail Zero. (Disclaimer: I’m affiliated with Alpenglow Gear)

    #3823183
    David D
    BPL Member

    @ddf

    Alpenglow is supposedly quite a bit quieter but that’s compared to the pad pal at it’s highest and faster setting.  Would be nice to see comparison at the same CFMs

    #3823207
    Link .
    BPL Member

    @annapurna

    Justin talks about the difference between the PadPal and the Alpenglow including which one is louder and which one is faster(not in great detail) in this video

    2024 Ultralight Backpacking Gear Awards

    Alpenglow:Energy usage: 18 mAh at 5V
    Noise Level: 48 dBA (similar to a moderate rainfall)

    Pad Pal:On the low mode the sound is 50-54 decibels. On high it is 70-76 decibels. There is some variance in sound due to propeller imbalance.

     

    #3823358
    Matthew / BPL
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    Has anyone found a good way to carry a Pad Pal to keep it from getting crushed? I don’t like the idea of keeping it in my cookpot. I’d rather keep it in my gear ditty but I’d like to prevent crushing it.

    #3823364
    Terran Terran
    BPL Member

    @terran

    Coin pouch?

    #3823860
    Philip Tschersich
    BPL Member

    @philip-ak

    Locale: Kodiak Alaska

    I picked up an Alpenblow during the sale. Pretty sweet little thing. It blows up my XL sized Thermarest Uberlight in 3 1/2 minutes, and my size XL Xtherm in 4 minutes. I think the Xtherm takes longer because the fabric is stiffer and heavier and the pump produces very little pressure. It is a very quiet pump.

    For protection I cut up and glued together closed-cell foam packing materials and made a pump ‘onigiri’. I am half tempted to paint it to look like a Twinkie. It weighs 2 g. The pump frankly does not seem that delicate, so I might end up just sewing a mini silnylon bag instead.



    #3823883
    Terran Terran
    BPL Member

    @terran

    You could make a seal-a-meal pouch.

    #3823888
    Matthew / BPL
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    That case is wonderful. What type of glue did you use?

    #3823890
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    You could make a case with 3D mesh.

    Pretty light, a little bit of protection.

    If you need to protect from water, put that into a ziploc bag.

    If you want to be anal, use a seal-a-meal to make the ziploc bag the right size.  And save a gram:)

    #3823898
    Philip Tschersich
    BPL Member

    @philip-ak

    Locale: Kodiak Alaska

    The glue is E6000. I held the pieces in place with a bit of tape until it set. Cheers

    #3824464
    Philip Tschersich
    BPL Member

    @philip-ak

    Locale: Kodiak Alaska

    I found a little plastic case that seemed the right size. I can’t remember where it came from. I think it had some electronic components in it at one point. It was just a hair too short, so I trimmed the pump nozzle adapter down and glued in a foam gasket to the adapter’s inside for a good seal around the pad valve. It weighs 9 g: the same as the pump itself. I’m happy with this set up and will stick with it for the time being. There are lots of mini pill containers available online that would probably do the same thing. I will add that my nozzle modification did not affect inflation time.

    #3824473
    John K
    BPL Member

    @kaptainkriz

    I’ve been using the pad pal for a while and also using it on my AT thru hike attempt. I just throw it in my electronics bag… have not smushed it yet.

    #3824955
    Darryl C
    BPL Member

    @dscramer

    I’ve used the Pad Pal on a half dozen 2-4 day trips over the past few months.  I’ve just been throwing it into my sleeping bag and pushing by bag to the bottom of my pack.  So far no problems.  My biggest fear is putting my knee on it while I am messing around setting things up for the night.   It is a bit loud at full speed.  In fact a few times  when others were around  I have stopped inflating early because of the noise.  So far I think it is pretty darn groovy.

    #3824956
    jscott
    BPL Member

    @book

    Locale: Northern California

    Grumpy old man here. I was astonished when I learned how light the pad pumps were. then I realized they required recharging. And recharging requires carrying a recharging source. and that weighs a bit and requires fiddling with technical issues and where to place it on a pack. And what if the angle to the sun isn’t right as I hike north or south or into the woods? And then I went back to being a grumpy old man.

    the Schnozzle inflates a pad in the same time frame as a pump. It also doubles as a dry bag, and weighs even less than the admittedly very light pad pumps. However:

    a Schnozzle requires no batteries, and all of the apparatus required to re-charge batteries.

    did I mention that I was a grumpy old man?  Anyway, I would love to see an episode on this forum that explored just how much weight and anxiety and fiddling around could be eliminated if a hiker were to go out into the wilderness without a phone and a battery pump and the recharging apparatus these require. I seem to recall we used to do this as a matter of course and somehow survived.

    In other words, an episode that explored the benefits of simplicity and lightness of being in the wild.

    for me, the point of venturing into nature is to conform my senses and thoughts to a wild surrounding. Fiddling with technological devices interrupts this conformity/confirmation to nature. I’m asked to leave my usual self behind and come into something new and fundamental. Carrying the weight of the familiar technology with me, and spending my time fiddling with it , defeats the purpose of my venture. Or anyway, that’s how I see it.

    It takes a bit of faith to cast off electronic technology and trust the wilds, and your own abilities.

    Muir went off without even a tent and a map. I’d never do that! the Schnozzle is my kind of high tech.

    #3824959
    Terran Terran
    BPL Member

    @terran

    You never had your phone die and had to wait until you got home to see the end of the movie. As a young man living in the city, I felt a need to escape and to test myself. As an old man living in the country, I just do what I like.

    The Schonozzle makes a good stuff sack. You can bleed the air off.

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