- Dec 11, 2016 at 6:56 pm #3440061
this thread is actually turning out to be motivating .
I am feeling more confident about what I can do now. Little steps, nothing huge, but just a hint of abs showing was pretty cool :)Dec 11, 2016 at 7:39 pm #3440065
Little steps are the way to go, otherwise you can burn out or get hurt.
It’s helpful here too….I almost didn’t get out today but I didn’t want to post only 4 days of workouts. And it was a good one (it always is) so I’m glad I got out.
Regardless of the workout, sometimes getting out the door is the hardest part.Dec 11, 2016 at 7:56 pm #3440066AnonymousInactive
What all these articles have to say about diaphragm involvement is well worth considering, IME.Dec 11, 2016 at 11:44 pm #3440088
I will look at those articles tomorrow Tom. Thanks. I just finished sewing for the weekend and that alarm goes off at 4:15 :-0Dec 12, 2016 at 8:10 am #3440102bjcBPL Member
Listen to Tom on this. Food intake can play a role, but inadequate oxygen levels as the result of shallow breathing (both inhalation and exhalation) are usually at the root of the problem.
Another link that talks about belly breathing: Take the mouth breathing vs. inhaling through your nose as you will!
Happy you are seeing results from your efforts. Congrats.Dec 12, 2016 at 8:38 am #3440107AnonymousInactive
“Another link that talks about belly breathing:”
A huge +1 to that! It is a major purpose of the diaphragm. I am very ambivalent about mouth breathing, however, particularly in cold weather. The nose was designed with mucous membranes and hairs for a reason, to trap particulates, and also to warm air before it reaches the sensitive tissues of the bronchial tubes and lungs. True enough, volume wise it is not as large a passage as the mouth/throat, but it is entirely adequate for the purposes of most runners. When you reach a level of running where you are seriously competitive, it may be a different story, but for recreational running, my personal opinion is to stick with nose breathing if that is how you naturally do it.Dec 12, 2016 at 12:46 pm #3440140
Thanks Tom and BJ. That belly breathing takes a little practice, eh?
I ran well today. Had the slightest side pain but only the last 5 minutes and Olga and I were pushing pretty hard. I took some deeper breaths and held my hand under my rib and that made it ok. I also tried holding my belly in while running for the 2 miles, just a bit of ab work while I run. Not sure if that is good or bad but it felt ok other than my pants having a mind of their own all of a sudden. I have definitively lost some visceral fat over this last month, having cut back on simple carbs too. Knowing I can run if need be is a plus. Feels nice.Dec 12, 2016 at 5:32 pm #3440171AnonymousInactive
“That belly breathing takes a little practice, eh?”
A little, at first, but it will quickly become second nature once you get used to it.
Basically, you just push your abdomen down and out. Your diaphragm will follow and fill your lungs in the process. You can practice it while going about your daily routine, which I gather entails a lot of walking around.Dec 13, 2016 at 6:41 pm #3440339
I tried the belly breathing for most of my run today. It feels a little awkward, but I did not get any side pain and I ran really well today. I also ate much earlier than usual, having nothing at all for two hours before running.Dec 13, 2016 at 8:54 pm #3440353AnonymousInactive
Well done! I’d call that progress. The belly breathing will become second nature over time.Dec 14, 2016 at 9:06 am #3440395
Good to hear Kat, maybe the breathing/eating combo will solve it for you.
I’ve been in the habit of running/working out an an empty stomach for a pretty long time; I find it helpful in that A) I don’t have digestive issues while working out and B) I believe it’s helped me become somewhat fat-burning adapted (or at least mentally adjusted) and I don’t need much food or fuel during long workouts or hikes.Dec 14, 2016 at 9:20 am #3440399
…Dec 14, 2016 at 12:35 pm #3440424Ken ThompsonBPL Member
@hereLocale: Right there
After a bunch of life changes and an injury I am currently in the worst shape of my life. Kat’s seen it and can attest that it is not a pretty sight. I have a bicycle that is mocking me from the corner. Brownies tempting from the kitchen. Inspiration on the inter webs…must get up off *!%.Dec 14, 2016 at 2:10 pm #3440435
^^^^ you are a pretty sight even when out of shape Ken :)
if you want to feel better….join us! a small movement in the right direction is all it takes sometimes. What would feel good say six months from now?
I will motivate you ;)Dec 14, 2016 at 10:44 pm #3440484
Whether publicly on this board or privately, I’m happy to help out if I can Ken, even if that’s just periodically checking in and saying “hey, how’s it going?”.Dec 15, 2016 at 9:13 am #3440530
Here too Ken, like Craig said.
In general it helps to be around people that are trying to be healthy….and we are trying :)Dec 15, 2016 at 9:25 am #3440533Ben CBPL Member
For me, it’s all about motivation. Here’s what I continue to do regularly:
- Volleyball 2x a week about 2 hours each. There is just something about competition and a ball that keeps me motivated. I’ve been doing it more than 30 years on a regular basis.
- Yoga 1x a week for almost an hour. This one is not as easy for motivation but its easy to do and I always feel good afterwards.
- Walk/run combo for about an hour 1x a week. I can always find the time to do this and mostly enjoy it.
- I need something else more regular. I bounce in and out of other things and eventually drop out: weights, swimming, etc.
I’d love ideas for other training that motivates well.Dec 15, 2016 at 9:45 am #3440537Ken ThompsonBPL Member
@hereLocale: Right there
Kat and Craig, thanks for the kind words.
I use to stay active at work, and had two energetic dogs to walk. Now I drive way more. Tigger is still here, but at 11 1/2 years he is only interested in going out once a day for a slow mile mosey. Stress at the end of last year and an injury that made walking painful contributed to me packing on friggin 50 extra pounds I certainly don’t need or want. I am starting back down now that the eating is more under control and the stress inducers are gone. Going to be turning 50 in a few weeks. Would prefer to be in better shape for that. Little steps…Dec 15, 2016 at 9:54 am #3440540Ben CBPL Member
Kat, for me, the side stitch seems to always happens when I run too close to eating. I never get them if I wait an hour. It’s an easy fix if that’s your issue too. Good luck.Dec 15, 2016 at 10:44 am #3440546PedestrianBPL Member
Another reason to run…..
“Running as the thinking person’s sport”Dec 15, 2016 at 10:49 am #3440548
My school recently completely a study looking at GPAs among athletes and found that our cross country team, both male and female, had the highest GPA of all sports teams and these athletes were enrolled in more advanced placement classes than other teams.Dec 15, 2016 at 12:39 pm #3440569
@Ken for being as out of shape as you claim to be you still have to turn down a single trip or route. You may not be where you want to be but you are getting to the top of a mountain. So…
@Ben yes that seems to be the consensus among runners. Other than today’s bad choice, I am putting more time between food and running :)Dec 15, 2016 at 5:34 pm #3440613AnonymousInactive
“I am putting more time between food and running”
Wise idea. In a competition between the stomach and the larger working muscles for blood supply, the working muscles will mostly win. And then your stomach throws a tantrum. It was axiomatic back when I was a kid not to go swimming for at least an hour after eating, because it could lead to stomach cramps. We didn’t understand why, and I’m not sure my Mom did either, but it was good advice that applies as well to running. Back in the day, I never ate for several hours before running, and still do my training hikes that way. You already have plenty of energy stored in your muscles and fat tissue to last you for any run you are likely to do, so why tempt fate? An additional benefit, as Craig said, is that running on an empty stomach will help train you to burn fat.Dec 15, 2016 at 8:51 pm #3440621Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
When I started running competitively in high school, side stitches were common for me until i got into running shape. After that I never got them unless I ate an apple before a race — even if it was 3 hours prior.Dec 15, 2016 at 8:55 pm #3440622Nick GatelBPL Member
@ngatelLocale: Southern California
My school recently completely a study looking at GPAs among athletes and found that our cross country team, both male and female, had the highest GPA of all sports teams and these athletes were enrolled in more advanced placement classes than other teams.
Actually this is pretty common in most high schools. It has nothing to do with the physical or mental aspect of running, but the type of individuals that are drawn to cross country.
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