SUL 16 oz Capacity Esbit System

Very nice!

I have lost interest in cooking while backpacking but I enjoy tea/coffee and having some warm beverages seems like a good backup plan in a bad situation.

Actually, now that I’ve seen how light and efficient it is I’m thinking of taking along enough Esbits to have hot coffee every morning :-)

David,

Nice system, looks perfect for the situation.  You might add a heat shield just to be safe and it won’t weigh much.  My 2 cents.

Not sure what that would be exactly. Like a secondary windscreen to keep things from touching the primary?

I love using esbit ..

Daivd,

Just a piece of foil between the Esbit stove and the ground, that’s all.

You can barely see it beneath my stove set in that picture above..

As not to scorch mother nature and her earth.. and possibly to reflect some heat back to the pot??? Not sure about the second part, but it sounds good!!

Ha! I have called that a base sheet in the past, but I’ll update my nomenclature. I actually did put a piece of foil folded over a couple of times under the rig when I did the test burns and plan to take it along. Guess I’ll include that in the weight!

Yeah, I just call it a titanium floor or a burn sheet…

Just my $.02 but I find the 4g tablets really nice to pack in a ziplock pill baggie. I prefer keeping the stinky, toxic tablets outside of my cook kit (usually in the front pocket of my pack). The 4g tablets are more expensive but I don’t use many so the price seems negligible to me.

Agree about the 4g. Or the 5g too!

I keep mine in little “dime” baggies, but i do leave them inside my rolled up cone.. inside my pot. No smells or issues for me.

I have heard of folks smearing the snapping together part of ziplock baggies with a bit of vaseline to block smell from escaping dope baggies. Works on drug dogs, would probably work for esbit baggies? Bear baggies?

My understanding is that the plastic in regular baggies and ziplocks, although waterproof, is not gas/air tight, but that turkey baking bags are.

So I…uh…er…I mean some people I know…use turkey bags for storing odiferous herbs. For Esbits I cut off the bottom 12” or so off a turkey bag, put in the Esbits, then fold and roll it and rubberband it before putting it in a double ziplock freezer bag, which then goes in the pot.

Are there Esbit brand 4 and 5 gram fuel tabs? I’ve tried Coghlin’s and the don’t seem to burn as cleanly. I just cut the Esbits into 7 gram halves and 3.5 gram quarters before I head out. The 3.5 gram quarters are enough to boil 8 oz of water for morning coffee or a hot dinner.

Can’t you just open up Esbit and let it air out to reduce the stink?  If I recall right, 4 g Esbit is unwrapped and really don’t smell.  Just a thought.

4 g esbit come in box.. not individually wrapped and do no smell.

here…

here are 5g.

Could you just place the esbit tab on the foil base/heat shield/burn sheet or is it essential to use a gram cracker or tea candle cup? I do the former, but wondering if I’m losing significant fuel efficiency?

Also, does unpacking esbit tabs and airing them out before a trip lessen their effectiveness? I don’t know why, but I’ve always carried them in the foil-wrapped individual packages. Less odor and less packaging is appealing.

Thanks.

If you asking me … I use the Graham cracker with my set up. As for the Esbit, the 4g tablets are not packaged.. They come loose in the box. The 5g tabs come in package of 4. I usually open it and just throw them in little mini baggies before my trips. The bigger tabs I usually just leave them in the package as they come.. But I don’t think it would lessen their effectiveness if you did remove them and bag em.

@bspencer: You could just put the tab on the foil, but there is a bit of the tab that liquifies while burning and is lost as fuel if it isn’t contained. The 14 gram tabs seem to light a bit easier when fresh from the individual packages, but not so much that it’s worth the smell if you want to repackage and let them air out in the process.

Love this set up David!

And the advice in the thread about smell. I have a ton of 4g tabs I bought a few years ago but never really got into using them much. Maybe its time.

I like it David!

I’m known to be dense, but I can’t see how the pot is supported – how is it suspended above the esbit?

Thank you.

Todd, the windscreen and flaps are sized so that the Foster’s can be pulled up, but when you try to push down the flaps grip the can and, when sized correctly, the harder you push the more the flaps dig in. I liked the idea of some kind of flaps to function as spacers that keep the windscreen stable and evenly spaced around the pot, which I believe I first saw on Jon Fong’s Snow Leopard. The gripper concept I borrowed from Simmershield.

Another cool thing about this style of windscreen is that the height of the Foster’s can be adjusted to use with different burners (tea candle, Gram Cracker, Starlyte) and different fuels (Esbit, alcohol, wood, butane). By placing to SS rods across the top of the windscreen to support the Foster’s you can fill it with twigs and wood to burn, and since the windscreen can also hang from the pot it can even be used with a canister stove when properly placed so the bottom edge is no more than an 1/2″-1″ below the burner  (and a heat shield above the canister!).

Thank you David.  That’s very nice – I had no idea the tabs did all that.  Sweet!