Question about poo tubes

Ed, small boat crusiers who dislike portapotties often use double (doodie) duty bags. The contents mix with poo and make it more manageable. I have not used them yet but you could try using their contents. I would pair that with a dedicated dry bag and individual bagged deposits if it met the requirement. A tube sounds heavy. For used TP when needed we double zipper bag. Have fun ; )

Glad not to have any of those policies where I go. Sounds crowded

+1 Ken.  If there are that many people pooping in the woods in which I am hiking…I’m hiking in the wrong place.

Bears and deer don’t even have the courtesy to bury their waste.

Seriously. If your poo is wrapped in plastic how would it dry in the tube? Don’t really want that smell right with me either.

I agree with Ken.  You deposit in a plastic bag and then that goes into the tube… not seeing how dehydration would be happening.  If you developed a system to vent gases, I would be concerned about fly’s swarming the thing (and you as you carry it away).

My slightly OT rant: The more I think about this issue, the more I think tighter regulations are misguided.  All of the issues I have come across in the outdoors it has been obvious that the people did not bury their waste.  People rightfully get annoyed by coming across TP, but I’ve seen no evidence that animals are digging it up.  I’ve seen lots of evidence of people just leaving it on the ground.  Those people are not following the existing regulations, so how does tighter regulations improve the situation?  We had a recent thread on here which makes it pretty clear that waste and TP break down pretty fast in a cathole.

Don’t you have to use biodegradable cornstarch bgs over there?

The bio-bags get soft and start to break down after about 20 minutes or so. You cannot just dump plastic bags into the toilets, they block up the whole system and cause massive damage ove time

yeah, if you can have a rule that says to carry out your poo, you could have a rule that says to bury your waste

I think some people think that they should leave a piece of toilet paper on the surface to let other people know there’s poo there

For a popular route with no vegetated areas, then there should be a rule to carry out poo.

Look at these

http://www.cleanwaste.com/go-anywhere-toilet-kit

Edward: The vapor pressure of water is pretty low, even at 120F – which you might get with a black bag left in the sun.  It’s got to be above one atmosphere to continually off-gas water vapor and that doesn’t happen until its boiling point at 212F.  Evaporation works off of hot, moist objects because there is a flow of drier air going by, even if slowly.  Add a PV panel and a fan, and then you’d be drying it out.

Ben: If poo tubes are required (like bear canisters), you can be checked for them.  Also, like on GCNP raft trips, the poo bags could be weighed.  If your permit is for 4 people and it is the 5th day, you ought to  have 6 to 9 pounds of poo with you.

I’m surprised Doug hasn’t contributed a poem on this yet.  The topic is, shall we say, “ripe” for it.

Has it finally come to this?  :0((

Always up for a challenge….

If I poop in a tube, does it go in my pack?
Do I really want a tube of poop on my back?
And do I poop in the tube, or poop on the ground,
And then scoop up my poop, not leaving any around?
And what about TP, does that go in the tube too?
Is there really enough room for my TP and poo?
And what about the tube? Is it okay for reuse?
If so, how do I clean it of my bowels’ refuse?
Why can’t I dig a hole and then poop in there?
I’ll bet that the forest animals wouldn’t care.
I don’t think I’d like pooping into a tube,
But it would be a funny trick to play on backpacking noobs….

that’s pretty good

a trick on noobs????

Well done Doug!!

Nice Poo-em

snipes poop in tubes.  be like the snipe.

Ode to the Poo Tube Blues

I’ve only had to do this kayaking — off the coast of Maine where the islands just can’t handle it.

I got extra points for good aim.

Hmm…no, no and no.

Next.

Come on Kat, live a little.

It’s hard to dig catholes above the snow line for a start and some of our most popular camp sites are well used in winter. While using poo-tubes is not yet mandatory there; the use of them is encouraged, especially for larger groups such as school and outdoor education classes

As for dehydration while stored in the sun in a secondary layer of clear plastic? If using a snow machine can melt snow to water then there should be enough energy to evapoarate water from faeces but when you take into account biological action the rate of water production should also increase.

n

…pioneering the poo-cube.

Ergonomics, my friend.

Addendum:

Katherine’s got her aim down pat.
But there’ll be no pooing in tubes for Kat.
Jeffs wants to make the tube be square.
Edward really needs it to work over ‘there.’
Ken thinks wrapping poo in plastic is bad.
Ben seems to agree, and then he gets mad.
Jimmy says wrap your poo twice if you care.
JCH says no thanks, he’ll instead hike elsewhere.
David gets to the science of drying out poo.
While Jerry (like all liberals) just wants more rules.
Poor Tom is just saddened that it’s ‘come to this.’
That’s about it for poo tubes, shall we move on to piss?

Kat may prefer a box?