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  • #3515943
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    Any number of eBay vendors selling them for about $1 – empty. You can’t post full ones. Refill from standard lighter refill can.

    Refill OUTSIDE: a messy business. Some butane always leaks.

    Cheers

    #3561653
    DAN-Y/FANCEE FEEST
    Spectator

    @zelph2

    Ali Express

    [video src="https://cloud.video.taobao.com/play/u/17300408758/p/1/e/6/t/10301/210655229864.mp4" /]
    <div>Bulin 1.5L Capacity Portable Outdoor Fast-Heating Pot Utensil Camping Cookware With Gas Stove for Camping Hiking Picnic

    Features:
    S2400A POT AND STOVE
    Pot Size: 132x148mm
    Capacity: 1.5L
    Material: Hard anodizing aluminum
    Net Weight:300g,Intotal weight:450g
    Stove Unfold Size.:221*72 mm/ Fold Size:115*72mm
    Stove Power: 3800W
    Igniter: No
    Fuel: butane, propane
    Material: Aluminum Alloy
    Net Weight: 360g
    Bearing: 15kg
    Suitable for backpack Camping.</div>
    <div>S24007</div>
    <div>S240012</div>
    <div>S24008</div>
    <div>S24009</div>
    <div>S240013</div>
    <div>S240014</div>
    <div>S2400-A2</div>
    <div>S2400-A13</div>
    <div>S2400-A15</div>
    <div>S2400-A7</div>
    <div>S2400-A11</div>
    <div></div>
    <div></div>
    <div>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bulin-1-5L-Capacity-Portable-Outdoor-Fast-Heating-Pot-Utensil-Camping-Cookware-With-Gas-Stove-for/32835927792.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.132.6fe33fb6RAq4S4&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10130_5731315_318_10890_5730315_10547_319_10546_10548_317_10545_5728815_10696_10084_10083_10618_452_5729215_10307_532_5731115_5731415_5731215_10882_5731615_204_328_10059_10884_5731515_323_325_10887_100031_320_321_322_10103_5731715_5728415-5731415,searchweb201603_55,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=cb6a2478-9342-4d2e-9768-cb1833ab1d12-21&algo_pvid=cb6a2478-9342-4d2e-9768-cb1833ab1d12</div&gt;

    #3561659
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    Pot Net Weight:300g, Intotal weight:450g (meaning?)
    Stove Net Weight: 360g

    A bit heavy maybe?

    Cheers

    #3561680
    DAN-Y/FANCEE FEEST
    Spectator

    @zelph2

    If I leave my ukelele at home I can justify the added weight :-)

    Watch the video of the stove and envision all the snow you can melt with that inferno :-)

    This photo is misleading:

    S2400-A7

    #3561718
    Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear
    BPL Member

    @jonfong

    Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR

    The stove itself weighs 360 grams:  BL100-B15

    The pot weighs 305 grams: S2400 

    Looks like an efficient flamethrower, from the video, it doesn’t look like it will simmer.  It does look pretty wind resistant as long as you are using the matching pot.  Not my cup of tea.

    #3561721
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    It’s a Reactor-style stove. They can be tolerable at full throttle, but turn them down to a reasonable level and they can be CO bombs. The Reactor emits lethal levels, and this one looks the same.

    Cheers

    #3561738
    DAN-Y/FANCEE FEEST
    Spectator

    @zelph2

    I actually posted this for snow melting folks out there in Alaska. I also thought it was interesting the cost of items coming out of Chinatown.  Thought David would be interested in sharing the info with his hunting buddies for Alaska adventures for 2 or more in a party. 1.5L is reasonable. I think he has one that size already. I’m tempted to purchase one just for the reactor type stove…can’t have too many stoves

    #3561782
    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    Thanks. I haven’t played with a reactor style stove yet.  I do have the 1.5-liter pot already – it’s with me now.  I also got their 2.5 (+/-?) liter one recently and have been meaning to do speed and efficiency tests post and post the results. Right now, I’m outside of Denali. Breezy and 11F now. -2F forecast for dawn tomorrow.

    #3561783
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    Hi David

    Very seriously: do not do the testing in any confined space. While 20 ppm CO was reasonable for the good stoves (some were even lower), and 100 ppm was imho a bit too high, the Reactor was hitting 2,000 ppm. At low power it neither sucks in enough oxygen, nor does it complete the combustion cycle. This new stove looks identical.

    Cheers

    #3561788
    DAN-Y/FANCEE FEEST
    Spectator

    @zelph2

    I like what I saw in the video, no fluctuation in flame output was visible. It’s interesting how the pot design worked out so well with the stove design that the pot could sit so low onto the stove to provide maximum wind resistance.

    It looked as if the stove/pot boiled 4 cups in 4.5 min. Not too shabby.

    S2400-A8

    #3561804
    Jeff McWilliams
    BPL Member

    @jjmcwill

    Locale: Midwest

    Does it work with the canister in inverted, liquid feed mode?

     

    #3564774
    DAN-Y/FANCEE FEEST
    Spectator

    @zelph2

    Does it work with the canister in inverted, liquid feed mode?

    <span style=”background-color: #ffffff;”>Only Roger is capable of giving a “best guess” </span>

    #3564776
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    Dunno.
    IF it has a preheat tube somewhere, then yes. If it does not – tricky.
    I would be reluctant to give an opinion without having one in my hand.

    Cheers

    #3564812
    Edward John M
    BPL Member

    @moondog55

    Having read all of the threads on HX pots I am thinking that skirted pots are the better solution and it seems nobody is making such at the moment.

    Not so difficult but I am reluctant to hack up a new  pot to try the experiment with

    #3564827
    DAN-Y/FANCEE FEEST
    Spectator

    @zelph2

    Pot Net Weight:300g, Intotal weight:450g (meaning?)
    Stove Net Weight: 360g

    A bit heavy maybe?

    Cheers

    Suffering has returned 

    #3564879
    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    Yeah BUT…, it’s Chinese. I just can’t bring myself to buy Chinese unless it is the only item of its kind.

    Ex. I bought a Chinese made REI eVent parka & pants a few years ago B/C no US made items were available at the time (within reason, that is).

    No. it’s not racial, I’m married to a Filipina, it’s the lack of Chinese quality control and the Chinese government treatment of Tibetans and the S.China Sea island building/maritime takeover. Way too arrogant of a dominating Han culture thing for me. As a former Peace Corps Volunteer (Philippines) I’m a bit more culturally sensitive than most regarding Chinese expansionism. Jus’ sayin’…

    #3564973
    Adam Kilpatrick
    BPL Member

    @oysters

    Locale: South Australia

    This is a great thread, thanks all involved! I’ve learnt so much reading through it this evening :-)

    Looks like “Bulin” makes a reasonable variety of HE and non-HE pots. And kettles! Some variations in both, so the added weight (at least going by their listed weights) can sometimes be compared. Eg the kettles here:

     

    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/0-8-1-5L-Camping-Heat-Exchanger-Water-Kettle-Tea-Pot-Energy-gathering-Coffee-Pot/253114118803?hash=item3aeec6f293:m:mGyhzH_bC7ZibEURhbd209g:rk:43:pf:0

     

    Ie 60g addition to 1.2L, 72g 1.5L

    …kettles with same listed diameter…something is fishy haha).

     

    I can see myself taking a cheap HE pot with canister stove on future trips to Japan with my significant other… efficiency/weight aside, the speed bonus may sometimes be worth it. She gets cold incredibly easily and doesn’t have the same experience I do…gotta look after her and keep her happy. Having said that, just sticking an extra 2-3 oz of down on her (say in a jacket) probably makes more of a difference than waiting a few extra minutes for that first cuppa once out of the rain (or in the morning).

     

    I really like Jerry’s Al+steel wire solution too. The weight isn’t too bad for the benefit.

    Thanks again!

     

    #3564974
    Adam Kilpatrick
    BPL Member

    @oysters

    Locale: South Australia

    Hmmm. Though I’m just remembering (how could I forget) that the only thing that irritates me more dealing with a stove at the end of the day than esbit smell/funk, is fiddling with foil-esque windscreens. Maybe a HE pot really is for me…

    #3565056
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    The extra weight of 60 – 70 g is not bad – better by far than the seriously heavy Jetboil pots for instance.

    The handles are actually stainless steel I think, and rather heavy. I removed the SS handle on one of these and replaced it with some Ti wire, for a significant weight saving. I put some heatshrink on the wire for safety.

    Cheers

    #3565061
    Mole J
    BPL Member

    @mole

    Locale: UK

    Do what I did?

    Get a jetboil ( I was given an old PCS)

    Get rid of the underpowered burner,

    Keep the pan and cut slots in the skirt to accept the soto windmaster 4 way potstand.

    This setup is more windproof than the jetboil, nearly 100g lighter and near 2 mins faster to boil a pint on the same amount of gas.  What’s not to like?

    I use it for work several times a week. Day walks and occasionally backpacking. (Prefer alcohol/Esbit and a cone usually)

    #3577296
    DAN-Y/FANCEE FEEST
    Spectator

    @zelph2

    Lots of interesting info in this thread, don’t let it go to the wayside.

    #3594776
    DAN-Y/FANCEE FEEST
    Spectator

    @zelph2

    Bump for renewed interest. Any new designs found  since last posting?

    Gotta like this design of burner Might hack one up for my modified milk pot project :-)

    S240013

    #3599020
    DAN-Y/FANCEE FEEST
    Spectator

    @zelph2

    HX pot with HX Skirt weighs 5 ounces/145 grams

    #3599027
    Roger Caffin
    BPL Member

    @rcaffin

    Locale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe

    Dan – are you sure about that 145 g?
    The Bulin web site says 305 g on the page for S2400.
    Did you take the handle and the lid off for this weight?
    I imagine the handle is steel and therefor massively heavy. What does the lid weigh?
    Could be interesting though.

    Cheers

    #3599041
    DAN-Y/FANCEE FEEST
    Spectator

    @zelph2

    Roger, it’s not a Bulin pot. I weighed it again this morning, it gained weight, 147 grams.

    With the lid, 154 grams.

    Volume of pot is one Australian serving of morning coffee…500ml :-)

    Boil times are averaging 2.5 min I have not measured how much fuel is being used. I’ll be doing more tests this week. The most important/often question asked about canister stoves is….How fast can it boil? ;)

    Titanium skirt fits easily inside pot.

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