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Experiences w/ ZPacks Soloplex/Duplex in Snow, Bad/Extreme Weather, Altitude?

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PostedAug 28, 2017 at 10:13 pm

Could you please share your experiences using either of these two tents (I am looking at the Duplex) in winter weather, strong winds, storms, sideways rain, pitching in the snow, etc?

I realise these are not winter tents, but at lot of my time will not be spent in the mountains. I am going to kick around SE Asia for the next 6 months or so, and in the spring go trekking in northern India and Nepal. I like to get off the beaten track and camp often instead of staying in hotels, hostels, or (in the case of Nepal trekking) teahouses.

A few questions that come to mind:

– How do you adjust your setup for these conditions? Can the edges of the tarp be lowered closer to the ground (I think the Altaplex has this ability)? Can additional tie-down points be added?

– Do you find the trekking/ski pole setup adequate in snow, especially soft/wet snow β€” presumably you are using baskets, but is it enough? Do you bury the baskets in snow and pack it down?

– Have you dug a snow wall with these tents in high winds and how did you fare

– Have you used the freestanding Flex poles for added strength in high winds or snow load?

– Have you torn/shredded your ‘plex in high winds? (independently of how well you anchored it down)

– Are the door clips really sufficient? I can imagine a howling gale tear that apart… but I could be wrong. Or maybe I misunderstand how the tarp doors fasten. If the winds aren’t call over the place, what’s the best way to orient a Solo/Duplex?

– Do you manage condensation any differently vs other tents in low temps where using the normally great ventilation of the Solo/Duplex is not such a good option? Do you find the non-absorbent property of cuben advantageous/disadvantageous for frozen condensation? Does having no separable inner make it harder to shake off frost when packing up?

– Anything else..?

Thanks a bunch!

Michael F BPL Member
PostedAug 29, 2017 at 2:00 pm

Sorry, but this is just not the right tent for 4th season use. At least not in the way you intend. The duplex is made to be ultralight but still protect you from rain and moderate weather. It’s not really suited for 4th season use IMO

Now around here in the American South East where I live, I could camp along the eastern part of the state in the winter with a duplex for sure. But we have very warm and very mild winters where the temps only selectively dip below 32 F at night or on especially cold days. It still wouldn’t be the best choice though. So IMO taking the duplex anywhere that has an actual winter, I.E. Wind, Snow, Sleet, Hail, etc. would just be a terrible decision … I technically own the Duplex, but I haven’t actually opened it yet or messed around with it at all, as I bought it for next summer, and want to keep it neatly packed away until then. So I’ve never actually used one, but I do know a lot about the duplex since I made sure to research a lot about it before dropping deciding on it. It’s just not a winter tent IMO

The Tent I bought for Winter was the Vaude Power Sphaerio 2p (I had bought, but then sent back a Wilderness Equipment First Arrow as well)

IME from shopping for and researching… Just about any tent worth a damn for winter, is gonna be at least 3.5lb -4.5 lb for 1 person set ups, and 4.5 lb to 6lb for 2 person set ups. That is for some of the lighter but still bomber winter tents out there, too. There’s just no way around it IMO a decent 4th season tent is just going to be heavy, sadly, even the “lighter” ones

I know the Duplex’s 1lb 6oz or so is really enticing…but IMO it’s best suited for 3 season use

PostedAug 29, 2017 at 3:02 pm

I’ve used my duplex in winter in colorado a decent amount. It’s not made for that, but I’m sure for trekking it would make a great tent and it would totally not be worth bringing a 4 season tent for something like that. Duplex faired pretty well with everything you mentioned, but you’ll have to choose your sites wisely, stake things out well, skis, poles, stuff sacks etc. The biggest issue for me is the cuben material is loud in the wind. I’d recommend earplugs.msr has some sweet fabric based snow stakes that I would highly recommend if you will be setting up on snow frequently.

Ian BPL Member
PostedAug 29, 2017 at 6:29 pm

I prefer silnylon over Cuben fiber when it’s snowing. Β The silnylon does a better job at shedding snow.

Bob Moulder BPL Member
PostedAug 30, 2017 at 6:10 am

Just my opinion β€” after spending about 100 nights in a Duplex β€” but in no way is it a winter “hammer time!” tent where serious snow loads (anything over 2″ of dry snow!) and/or relentlessly heavy wind (+30 mph) are regularly encountered…. forget about it.

PostedAug 30, 2017 at 1:04 pm

Shucks, forgot to turn on email notifications.

Ken, I’ll have a read though that thread, thanks.

Good to know about the silnylon shedding snow better.

Serge, I tend to agree, as it’s not like I’m delving into the deep backcountry or taking it mountaineering. On the other hand, one does not have to be very far off the beaten track for the unpredictable weather of the mountains to cause a turn for the worse that inadequate equipment/preparation could compound into an unrecoverable situation. At least, that is what one might infer if one were to learn from the mistakes of others!

Vaude Power Sphaerio 2p looks very well designed for its purpose, while stil maintaining a respectable weight. I have considered some models from Hilleberg for their bombproof construction and reputation, but they are quite heavy. Did you consider the Nemo Kunai? This has been the frontrunner for me, if I decided to choose an all-season tent. At first glance, it is more appealing to me than your Vaude, because it is lighter, though still touted as suitable for “summits”, and it is about one third the price! But I would say the Vaude “looks” better able to weather severe storms and snow load. Perhaps more than I need at the moment.

I would prefer a tent with better ventilation than the Kunai, though. It seems like sometimes I will need the solid inner, lower fly, more robust construction of a 4-“5” season tent, and at other times the mesh inner with more air circulation and lighter-weight construction of a nice UL 3-season shelter. In the end, I might have to switch tents (ship them to/from a sedentary friend while travelling).

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedAug 30, 2017 at 4:02 pm

more robust construction of a 4-β€œ5” season tent,
Fascinating idea – so marketing has moved to 5 seasons now?
I look forward to the more advanced marketing guys promoting 6 season gear soon.

Opinion: the Kunai is simply a high-priced pop-up – OK in forest out of the wind as long as there is little snow-fall.

Cheers

PostedAug 31, 2017 at 11:12 pm

The 6th-season tents have a floating bathtub floor, ultralight/ultrapackable outriggers for wind stability, submersible anchors, magnesium plate fly to guard against flying objects but remain lightweight. This is the “Gulf of Mexico hurricane season” tent.

I tend to agree with your assessment of the Kunai. I am dubious of its summit-worthiness.

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