Episode 145 | Backpacking at Altitude

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Companion forum thread to: Episode 145 | Backpacking at Altitude

How altitude affects backpacking performance, sleep, fatigue, acclimatization, and AMS – with practical strategies for planning safer trips.

[Chase Jordan]

Share your experiences with AMS or other altitude issues/strategies when backpacking at altitude.

[Steve Thompson]

During my earliest years of backpacking (like 57 of them ago) I would get nauseous during the first days of hiking at elevation. Age and/or better fitness seems to have fixed that, but I still feel the impact of elevation on the first few days of any hike at elevation. The Sierra, the Colorado Trail, etc. don’t “give” much in the way of sleeping low, it’s more like sleeping lower, so there I generally grind it out.

This episode did make me reflect on my Big SEKI Loop hike last summer and I wonder how much better I would have felt had I camped my 3rd night at the base of the Golden Staircase and not pushed through to Palisades Lakes (and then perhaps been much stronger over the course of the next couple days). Definitely something to consider as I plan treks for this summer.

Appetite-wise, lesson learned and if need be it is an exercise in “force-feeding”. I’ll pound down breakfast, force my hourly snacks and hydration throughout the day, and then force down dinner if need be. I may not feel hungry or thirsty, but my first Grand Canyon R2R2R bonking experience was a hard teacher and lesson well taken.

 

[Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear]

At high altitudes (over 10k), I tend to lose my appetite and have to force myself to eat.  I started taking Ozempic and do have concerns that this will make it a lot harder to consume enough food: combination of less desire to eat along with less body mass now.

[Brad W]

Is there a linear correlation between physical output and onset of AMS symptoms?

[Ryan Jordan]

Is there a linear correlation between physical output and onset of AMS symptoms?

AMS is not linearly correlated with physical output. Risk is determined primarily by hypoxic dose (especially sleeping altitude and rate of ascent) plus individual susceptibility etc.

Hard exertion early after ascent can add stress, so faster movement is not inherently protective and may increase risk if it means harder effort or earlier arrival at a high sleeping elevation.

However, in the absence of those things, harder effort may also reduce dose (time spent at altitude)?

[Brad W]

Thanks, Ryan. I had an episode a few years back and had wondered about that correlation. Slept at 11,500ft. Felt fine besides faster heart rate. Woke up, attempted to summit a 14K peak, really pushing my output, got to about 13,500K and it felt like a train hit me-nausea, migraine level headache, lost all will to continue. I thought at first it was a compromised water filter. Dropped as fast as I could to 11K, then just did a death march back to the car. As sick as I have ever felt on trail. Didn’t feel right until many hours later driving back under 3,000ft. I didn’t know if pushing myself influenced the rapid onset or severity of the AMS.

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