How Do You Occupy Self during Evening/Downtime when Solo?

Not trying to be smart, but might be worth trying a trip carrying some insulated clothing so you can sit outside and enjoy the evening.
Sitting down watching the stars can take up a lof of time.

That would drive me nuts. I would just keep trekking with a headlamp.

I get bored on solo trips too. Sometimes I read but normally I just hike into the dark. I try to time my night hiking so I'm not missing anything especially scenic. After about an hour in the dark I'm pretty sleepy. By the time I set up camp I'm ready to go to bed and sleep.

+1, Stephen. It's very easy to get lost in contemplation, provided you aren't uncomfortably chilled.

Hike, sleep. Wake up and repeat. Don't want to do the extra miles, adjust your schedule during the day.

I recommend some good podcasts (and/or music) on an Ipod shuffle. Oh, and scotch.

What tent?

watch fire

listen to radio or mp3 files – Sansa Clip is $30 and 1 ounce

if I wear an insulated jacket or vest I can stay warm, then wear it inside sleeping bag

You guys are serious hiking machines. I try to get to the campsite by late afternoon, so I have time to set up camp, treat the water, and score the night's firewood. From then until dark, I wander around the area, checking everything out–animal signs, neighborhood geysers and fumeroles in Yellowstone, and incredible views in Glacier or Colorado. Maybe there's a good sunset to watch. Then there is the important business of playing with the fire while sipping Wild Turkey. I like to eat late, so that I have a full supply of calories to last the night. I'll watch a few stars until the drowsies hit, and I sleep well.

same here Gary, I don't mind finding a spot a couple hours before sunset, or even three, and investigate

but it depends, sometimes I'm more into hiking some distance

"…checking everything out–animal signs, neighborhood geysers and fumeroles…"

A geezer checking out the geysers, I like that….

At least you guys have fires to look at. I can't remember the last time here in the southland that a fire was allowed anywhere you'd want to hike.

I'm thinking the podcast idea will work for me.

Sansa Clip is cheap and light. Apple products are expensive (sometimes you get what you pay for?).

Sansa holds maybe 200 hours but the battery only lasts for 50 hours. I got a lipstick battery to recharge, from amazon.com, maybe $10, 2.5 ounces, good for another 100 hours?

You can download any music from CDs or your PC

(are CDs like 8 track tapes?)

http://www.openculture.com/freeaudiobooks has free audio books. Mostly older ones that are past copywrite. They have links to other free mp3 files like online courses.

I can't remember the movie, I was just a kid when i saw it… Some old classic I'm sure, something with Steve McQueen in it. It was a prison camp movie. The question was posed about how to keep your sanity when locked away in isolation.

He said he used to spend a lot of timing working on his motorcycle, so in his mind he'd take it apart and put it back together… bolt by bolt. I'm an only child, I was a single parent. My sanity is still intact (that's what my voices tell me ;) ) because I'll never forget that movie line. I don't take apart motorcycles, but the concept is the same. It works in the woods just as well.

I guess if a person can't find something to do in their own head, then more "stuff" is the answer. Lots of threads on using a smartphone as a do-it-all device for podcasts, kindle, games, movies, etc… Could carry a ton of batteries for the weight of a kindle I'd think.

I'd rather stay up late, than get up early, when it's dark, cold and wet and I'm hungry and thirsty and have to pee… I'm not a good morning person.

The Great Escape :-)

MP3 player with audio books on it. And extra batteries for more than a couple days. And you can have music on it also.

Geyser Geezers 'R' Us, Dougie. Want to hike with me to the Shoshoni geyser basin in YNP next summer? You know, pester the wildlife and other hikers, burn wood, sip whiskey and talk smart, and project The Rocky Horror Picture Show onto the side of your cuben shelter? Oh, and there are all those geysers to play with, you geezer…

I used to bring one good pocket book. Now, I've splurged and bring the cheapest Kindle–which is also the lightest. Great because you can have a ton of reading options. So I have no boring hours. In fact I look forward to reading time.

Readin', writin' and radio. Looking forward to some evening fishing this summer.

Glenn brings up a good point. When do you usually arise Delmar? Sleep in or O' crack thirty?

I am a morning person. I like to get up and go.

I have just finished a 5 months long solo fall and winter trip and I know the problem very well.

First of all let me tell you that reading is not the perfect solution in winter because you have to hold your book or Kindle somehow. And your fingers will start freezing after a while even with gloves on. Listening to audiobooks or music is a better option but I usually do that during the day when hiking.

At night before I go to sleep I think. Yes, I just think – about the day, the good and the bad, the next day, my next plans and about whatever philosophical question I have come across. I often listen to historical documents or classical audiobooks and I like to contemplate their content in the evening. Actually one of the reasons why I continue hiking long distance is to have a lot of time for contemplation.

I guess that in our modern society we are not used any more to contemplation. We are continuously entertained by TV, radio, ads etc and are not used any more to being alone. Without an outside stimulus we feel bored. Why not enjoy your own company, your own thoughts? I enjoy the solitude of solo hiking because it frees up the space and time for thinking. Don't be bored – enjoy this freedom that the outdoors can give you.

Something that I love to bring is a small stargazing guide.

Although it is relatively "heavy", I find that the guide it super helpful in studying the constellations and stars.

The a lightweight alternative to this would be any of those star gazing apps on a smart phone.

Mostly sleep since I'm an early riser and coffee addict, usually just before dawn. After dinner, I will look at maps, do some journal writing (mostly electronic nowadays), and edit some pictures ….but getting a good night sleep is a priority.

When I started backpacking later into fall and earlier in the spring, I did some planning about what things I might do during the long nights. Tore out some crossword puzzles from the newspaper, brought a book, made sure I had a pen to write in a journal, etc. Even when I started going in January, never ended up using any of them, or even finding a time to write more than a few words during any of my trips.

Things would almost certainly have turned out differently if I'd run into any seriously bad weather at the same time that it was really dark, but even in winter, I'm usually not spending long hours in the tent. Even if I don't hike too much after dark, I'm usually ready to go to sleep pretty soon after I've eaten and set up camp, and when I've slept enough, I get up and hit the trail, often before dawn. If I don't need all the hours to get where I'd like to be, that just gives me more time for doing fun stuff during the warm and well lit part of the day.

One of these days, it probably won't turn out that way, and it'll be fine. Maybe I'll write, or maybe I'll just do nothing for a little while. :)

CHeers,

Bill S.