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Jan 21, 2014 at 9:27 pm #2065018
Didn't we just see this a week ago in this thread?
–B.G.–
Jan 21, 2014 at 9:33 pm #2065020We saw it on the other page which might as well be a separate thread.
Jan 22, 2014 at 1:23 am #2065044> I have a solution.
> Dig a pipeline trench from the ocean up to the mountain ridges. With the design of
> hydrolic'ing, start with a 4 ft diameter pipe at sea level, and keep going smaller
> till it gets to be a garden hose at altitude. This eliminates the need for an uphill
> pump.Congratulations. You have just invented the Perpetual Energy Machine. Pity the Patent Office will reject it without further consideration.
Cheers
Jan 22, 2014 at 5:41 am #2065061Doger: "The motion of the ocean will jet the pressure uphill to fill with sea water a plastic reservoir carefully hidden from disturbing a panorama."
Caffin: "Congratulations. You have just invented the Perpetual Energy Machine."
Wiki: Hydraulic Ram Pump
I'm not sure that Doger's idea is sound (friction and all that), but pretty sure hydraulic ram and wave motion pumps are real.
Jan 22, 2014 at 10:06 am #2065136I've been wanting to do that on my property for years, but don't think I have enough fall across my acre. They can only do so much lift. I'll have to opt for a solar pump to pump water into a tank, to be released on the weekends to water the garden.
DuaneJan 22, 2014 at 10:25 am #2065142…
Jan 22, 2014 at 10:33 am #2065143IIR, 40' or 50' is about all a ram pump can lift.
So you may be about 7,950' short….
Jan 22, 2014 at 10:54 am #2065154…
Jan 22, 2014 at 12:18 pm #2065180I'm starting April 18. I am curious if there are ever preemptive closures? Or are there just fire/stove bans?
It's crazy, I was hoping for low snow pack and never thought of the negative impact that has on the state.
Jan 22, 2014 at 1:02 pm #2065193Hi Greg and Rodger and all
Yes, I know about hydraulic ram pumps, but the initial claim was 'This eliminates the need for an uphill pump'. A 'hydraulic ram pump' is still a pump.
Would a hydraulic ram pump get up far enough? Unlikely. 8000' of water pressure (to the top of the ranges) is about 3,600 psi. That's static: not counting friction.
Cheers
Jan 22, 2014 at 4:13 pm #2065247"It's crazy, I was hoping for low snow pack and never thought of the negative impact that has on the state."
Thanks James. At least we know who to blame now! ;)
Jan 22, 2014 at 7:19 pm #2065303Some parks in California (like Mt Diablo) will shut down completely during extreme fire danger.
Parts of the PCT are still closed from recent fires (e.g. near Mt San Jacinto).
Best to check with PCTA for the latest news and trail closure forecasts.
— Rex
Jan 31, 2014 at 8:25 am #2068240We finally had some precipitation here in California, but not enough to make much dent. And although the 10 day forecast includes some more dribs and drabs, there are no real storms coming soon. Still hoping for some redemption.
Jan 31, 2014 at 8:42 am #2068249…
Jan 31, 2014 at 8:57 am #2068255It's time to call in Charlie Hatfield.
Jan 31, 2014 at 9:21 am #2068261…
Feb 10, 2014 at 12:45 pm #2071935Four or five more storms like the one this past week and we'll be in fat city! Southern Sierra is now at 26% of normal Feb 10 snowpack.
Mt Tamalpais, in Marin County got 23.51" of rain in the past five days. Woohoo!!
Dr Jeff Masters has a quick summary in today's WunderBlog post.
Feb 11, 2014 at 10:21 pm #2072493Snowfall in the Sierra was best in the tahoe-to-sonora section, and dropped off quickly south of that. So Desolation Carson-iceberg, Mokelumne, and Emeigrant wilderness areas did well and anything south not so much. Still quite skimpy compared to average.
Feb 18, 2014 at 10:17 am #2074710Feb 18, 2014 at 5:02 pm #2074860AnonymousInactive"and a new satellite image."
Darn! It looks like the entire Great Western Divide is bare. Now THAT is depressing.
Troubled times……
Feb 18, 2014 at 5:09 pm #2074863If the Great Western Divide is bare, that will just make it easier on Milly's Foot Pass.
–B.G.–
Feb 26, 2014 at 4:54 pm #2077489Rain and snow! woot
Feb 26, 2014 at 7:52 pm #2077546Here in So. Cal. there's wet stuff falling from the sky!
My grandfather told me about how it used to do this when he was a kid but I never believed him.
I took my children out front to stand in it.
"Remember this day kids, this here is something special." says I.
Feb 26, 2014 at 9:12 pm #2077580A bunch of us were hiking in the dark here on Wednesday evening. We kept walking through deep rain puddles, but nobody wanted to complain about the water. We needed it.
–B.G.–
Feb 26, 2014 at 11:13 pm #2077602This afternoon was the first time this winter where we got a nice hard rain pater on the roof, and I found it very relaxing. I realized that that is the usual effect it has on me in late December when the rain (usually) first starts. By the end of February I pretty much want it to stop before I go insane. Just shows how weird a year this has been.
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