Feb 1, 2013 at 1:00 pm #1298733
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
My choice would be a Hilleberg Akto or similar, with guy lines tie-outs midpoint on each ridge to handle snow load.
Maybe a heavy duty main pole and an interior X-ing pole beneath the fly.Feb 1, 2013 at 1:17 pm #1949738
I don't own one yet, but I have been lusting over the Hilleberg Unna. I think it would be the perfect solo winter setup for me. I tried out an AKTO and Soulo in a store, but the AKTO was a little to short (verticle wise) for me. I though the solou whould work for me, but the extra room on the inside of the Unna would be of greater benefit and flexivility to me.Feb 1, 2013 at 1:21 pm #1949740
@stephen-mLocale: Way up North
I really like the Hilleberg Soulo.
Would prefer if it was lighter.Feb 1, 2013 at 2:57 pm #1949770
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No regrets after buying an Unna. It's a rock in the wind.Feb 1, 2013 at 3:13 pm #1949779
palace for one and if needed for two not so bad, especially if you have the optional vestibule.Feb 1, 2013 at 3:57 pm #1949796
@richardglyonLocale: Bridger Mountains
Hilleberg Unna. A winner in all seasons.Feb 1, 2013 at 4:03 pm #1949797
For a guy who has a Scarp 2, I wonder why not a Scarp 1?
Here is my favorite winter shelter…
Winter 2012Feb 1, 2013 at 4:06 pm #1949798
@retiredjerryLocale: Oregon and Washington
Sometimes when I camp like that, and it's windy, a lot of sand and grit blows at me and into my sleeping bagFeb 1, 2013 at 4:34 pm #1949808
"Sometimes when I camp like that, and it's windy, a lot of sand and grit blows at me and into my sleeping bag"
Yeah, that can be a problem. Last Feb a bunch of us got hit with gusts up to 50 mph (not in the weather forecast) and temps down around freezing. Two out of 4 shelters collapsed, the other two were tarps that were still standing in the morning. Tarps can't eliminate all the sand though. I was fine with no shelter, except a creosote bush as a wind block :)
Here I am setting up my shelterless bed.
I have had good luck in really bad winds with my old Chouinard Pyramid, but it is heavy. The Scarp 1 with cross overs can probably handle just about anything we would see in the desert. But it is heavy too.
I have a Trailstar on order for windy weather, I think it is going to do well pitched low.
We shall see.Feb 1, 2013 at 8:48 pm #1949892
@scfhomeLocale: Chocorua NH, USA
When I see the word "winter," I think of merciless wind, temperatures that unpredictably can drop below zero F., sleet, hail, bottomless drifts of deep snow, post-holing, maybe with some driving rain, but only when it is interspersed with the former; and sometimes, less than half the time, sunshine on snow. From now on, I will understand better that "winter" has different meanings in different places. Nice photos!Feb 1, 2013 at 9:59 pm #1949906
I have decided to start spending my winter season with Nick. Those pictures look like they are from my summer season.Feb 2, 2013 at 9:26 am #1950022
@brooklynkayakLocale: South West US
My favorite winter shelters that I have owned:
Golite Hut(now called Shangri-la) – not so light
GG Spinnshlter(spinnaker) – lighter
MLD Patrol(cuben) – even lighter and more durable
All of these because of the way they perform in harsh windy conditions.
They can be pitched in full protection mode.
Snow slides to the ground.
They won't collapse from wet snow if properly anchored.
If wind was less of a problem, but VERY heavy snow is a possibility, my Oware Alphamid(or any good pyramid).
All of these shelters are light and flexible enough to use as a summer shelter as well.
You can't say that about most 4 season shelters.Feb 2, 2013 at 12:30 pm #1950089
@rayestrellaLocale: Northern Minnesota
The one that I have that trip. (Yeah, a cop-out, I know.) Here's yesterday's favorite.Feb 2, 2013 at 2:31 pm #1950114
"From now on, I will understand better that "winter" has different meanings in different places."
Oh… I didn't catch that the OP meant snow. Well, where I live I can choose what kind of weather I want to hike in. If I want snow, it is less than an hour away. If I want warm, it is less than an hour away. My location does not determine what weather I am forced to hike in. I can hike in any weather I want in winter. I like choices in life. So if I want snow, I can go. And when I tire of it, I can leave quickly for warm winter weather. Both are less than an hour away.
Take your pick.
P.S. I am just being mean. My wife said I had to stay home this weekend :(Feb 2, 2013 at 5:31 pm #1950168
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
Great photo of your Scarp 2 and MSR Lightning Ascent 'shoes.
Geeze, great minds think alike. I too have the same gear. Wish I had a great mind, the best "gear" of all.
You are a gentleman of exquisite taste. ;O)Feb 2, 2013 at 7:17 pm #1950205
Actually it is a Scarp 1.
3 of the desert pictures in my first post are in your backyard. Every December I do a trip in Southern Nevada.Feb 2, 2013 at 9:19 pm #1950234
Scarp2 and Ascents here too!
Eric, you got a beard?
long day at workFeb 2, 2013 at 10:04 pm #1950244
I go home (to Vegas) every Christmas and summer and had no idea that there was any backpacking that close. I was sure that Lake Mead and the surrounding areas were closed off for foot travel because everything down there are random "no trespassing" signs everywhere!
I've read through some of your trail reports and wish I'd read them two winters ago when I drove up to Zion between Christmas and New Years to get a quick backpacking fix in. I understand that you kind of want to keep those areas secluded and secret, but I might have to do a quick trip next time I get to go home!Feb 2, 2013 at 10:08 pm #1950246
@pillowthreadLocale: like, in my head???
Yeah, I'll twelfth the Akto…find flatish ground, pitch tent, sleep. Repeat until satisfied.Feb 2, 2013 at 11:32 pm #1950255
Yeah, I'll twelfth the Akto
Three comments on the Akto so far…
Eric does not have one but potentialy he likes that or similer ones…
Ben found it too short
Vince loves his…
Good news :the perfect winter tent will never be made.Feb 3, 2013 at 12:50 am #1950258
The Soulo works quite well.Feb 3, 2013 at 2:31 am #1950262
Yes, the Soulo looks very strong and stable: http://www.youtube.com/#/watch?v=kLligRPO4tUFeb 3, 2013 at 2:40 am #1950263
If a bit of snow does it for you , then I'll propose my Notch :
OK,just kidding…Feb 3, 2013 at 9:40 am #1950311
@brooklynkayakLocale: South West US
Regarding the Soulo. It would be a good shelter, unless you have to carry it.
Totally NOT UL.
I know a lot of people don't have problem with a 5+ lb shelter, but I couldn't do it.
Some people love the idea of a dome shelter for winter use and all the heavy hardware that is required to make a dome work in the winter, but I'd personally look into another design.
A-frame, pyramid, tunnel and other styles give a better weight to weatherproofness ratio.Feb 3, 2013 at 12:43 pm #1950379
I think an Akto with the Scarp Extra pole setup would be ideal. A nice snow load freestanding option.That kerlon fabric is tough.
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