I would like to know what's classed as a UL Solo winter tent?
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Your fav solo winter backpacking tent?
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Whatever you feel safe in using.
Very wise answer Ray.
Funny. I was looking at the Hilleberg catalogue last night and was surprised to see that both the Akto and Soulo have both gained considerable weight over the last couple of years. 3 lbs, 12 oz for the former and 5 lbs, 5 oz for the latter. Was there a change to the Kerlon fabric? The Soulo is now heavier than many dedicated 2 person winter shelters and it is small.
I have not seen the new catalogue Dave but a buddy was telling me about the weights advertised for the Soulo and Atko.
I have never heard of either standard silnylon, spinnaker or mid-weight cuben failing from snow weight. The exception would be in cases of abuse or poor anchoring, which can happen.
The most common failures I've seen have been from wind and that can happen any time of year.
I have sat out tropical storms in exposed areas in shelters made out of these lighter materials without issue as long as I fully anchored all tie-outs.
I have never heard of either standard silnylon, spinnaker or mid-weight cuben failing from snow weight..
Same here.
I have seen fabric failure AFTER pole failure, that is poles punch through the fabric. I can't think of a case the other way around.
I think an Akto with the Scarp Extra pole setup would be ideal.
Might as well use the Scarp 1 with those x poles then…
Like David, I was looking at the 2013 Hilleberg catalog yesterday. Packed weights have gone up between 3-7oz for most tents in the Kerlon 1800 and Kerlon 1200 lines, although suspiciously the Unna and Nallo 4 are unchanged.
You don't buy Hilleberg to go UL, but these revisions are disappointing. From other threads it appeared that the spec change occurred some time around the 2010/2011 model years, although the 4P Saitaris was introduced in 2011 and its packed weight was also revised up 6oz in the newest catalog.
I have an old Warmlight 2R tent I like. While it's a 2 man tent with something like 40 sq. ft. of space, it only tips the scales at around 3 pounds 5 ounces.
Actually, my current solo winter tent is a hammock. :-)
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