Apr 2, 2012 at 10:25 am #1288199
Are LightHeart Gear and Six Moon Designs the only tentmakers offering a forest green solo which is broadly open to views on both sides?Apr 2, 2012 at 11:24 am #1862582
@newtonLocale: Southeastern Louisiana
In forest green they are the only ones that I know of at present.
But that depends on your defintion of "broadly open".
The Lightheart Gear and Six Moon Designs tents both require an "awning" or "porch" to maintain the view when the rain fly of either tent is deployed.
Both of these tents are "hybrids" of sorts because their rain fly is attached permanently. Other tents have a separate inner netting and an outer rain fly.
I hike with a fellow who uses the Sierra Designs Light Year tent. It is green but a little lighter than forest green. Unless the rain fly is in place his tent is open to the view 360 degrees.
For a custom tent "fee" you may be able to get an "awning" or "porch" on both sides with a zippered door on each side.
NewtonApr 2, 2012 at 11:25 am #1862584
@dwambaughLocale: Pacific Northwest
A green tarp? Add bug insert and hike :)Apr 2, 2012 at 12:00 pm #1862599
Yeah Dale. I expected that response…so I put "Tents" in the title of the post. :)
Thanks Newton. Not quite on the SD Light Year. I'm speaking of tents designed in such a way that the fly opens up on both long sides (doors, vestibules, etc.). A few two-person examples are the MSR Carbon Reflex (though not quite forest green), Hilleberg Rogen, and last year's SMD Lunar Duo in green.
Surely there are other forest green solo tents, with open views on both sides, aren't there?
Six Moon Designs Scout/Trekker
LightHeart Gear Solo/SoLong 6Apr 2, 2012 at 5:16 pm #1862731
Other than the ones you listed, this is the other tent that comes to mind if you want to break the bank…Apr 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm #1862736
Montbell Crescent 1Apr 2, 2012 at 6:06 pm #1862754
Chad “Stick” PoindexterParticipant
@stickLocale: Wet & Humid Southeast....
I like my Lunar Duo…Apr 2, 2012 at 8:56 pm #1862852
Right Chad, like your green Lunar Duo, which isn't made anymore(in green) and also isn't a "solo" tent.
So as far we know, perhaps the only solo tents made featuring a forest green fly which opens up on both long edges to allow viewing, are the following 3:
Six Moon Designs: Scout/Trekker
LightHeart Gear: Solo/SoLong 6
Mont-bell: Crescent 1 …though I have not found a single photo or video to show that this tent has ever actually been pitched outside, by anyone.
The lack of such offerings seems counter-intuitive at the least. Backpackers want to see where they are camping, wake to the views, etc. And forest green is kind of an iconic color of preference for wild camping.Apr 2, 2012 at 9:02 pm #1862858
here is one…Apr 2, 2012 at 9:06 pm #1862862
That is the Crescent 1 I linked to Franco.
Time for Henry to offer another color choice for TT.
An olive Moment or Scarp would be grand.
I'm just sick of that gray.Apr 2, 2012 at 9:08 pm #1862866
I thought that would come along, and suspected it wouldn't be from this continent. Looks a little over-stuffed and from the looks of it, it almost looks unfinished.Apr 2, 2012 at 9:11 pm #1862868
You did not specify quality standards or requirements ;)Apr 2, 2012 at 9:16 pm #1862870
Lol. No, I'm not marking it off the list. At least I think it's still in production. I'm just sayin' it doesn't appear to be on the same level as the other two on the list, and likely the fly doesn't open up as much.Apr 2, 2012 at 9:35 pm #1862881
@saparisorLocale: Pacific Northwest
There is also the Nemo Meta 2:
A little brighter than forest green, however . . .Apr 2, 2012 at 9:39 pm #1862882
They still make it. Half the fly rolls back completely. If I were shorter I might have given it a go. But at 6'3" it's just not enough. The forest green color on them now is really nice. There is a Crescent 2 also.Apr 2, 2012 at 9:42 pm #1862885
Solo – solo – solo -solo. Not Duo / two-person tents.
There's a long list of 2 person tents which have a forest green fly which opens on both sides.
Still know of only 3 solo tents that those two seemingly obvious things can be said about.Apr 2, 2012 at 10:16 pm #1862895
If you like green because you …like green , well that is just fine.
However if you think that a green tent will blend in more than that shade you don't like, that is another matter.
It just happens that the human eye can pick more types (shades/tints,hues) of green than any other color, therefore it is very difficult for one type of green to blend in with another.
However I would be interested to see the exact type of green that people like..
BTW, I do know of another solo green tent with two doors.
That is because I suggested that particular design, and here it is :
It's the Luxe SpeedUp, with Michael Wong from Luxe and me.
It is a darker more emerald green than that. You need to be 6" or under for that one or sleep diagonally
http://www.luxeoutdoor.com/eng/catalog-topic-gallery-view1.asp?id=1146&selfpath=/12/134Apr 2, 2012 at 10:46 pm #1862899
Where's the data? I'd like to read that study. Being a retired investigator, I have suspicions as to the applicability of the human eye's perception of green, in this context.
Nature is full of wide range of greens. So what better color to blend in than one of those shades? Even on a rock outcropping, from afar a green object can easily be mistaken as a tree/bush/brush or something organic to the landscape.
I did a little study of my own a few years ago with a photograph taken above of about 8 tents of different colors, including a few shades of green, all pitched in a distant field. I individually asked 7 people to tell me which tent they had the hardest time spotting; which one stood out the least. It was the dark green tent which drew 5 votes, followed by the slightly lighter green tent with 2. Neither matched the field color perfectly but no one picked the gray, white, orange, tan, etc. tents. My vote was on the darker green tent but I didn't count mine. 2 people were with me when I took the image and they mirrored the data. I could probably dig that photo up, amongst my 100k+ images.Apr 2, 2012 at 10:50 pm #1862902
That is a nice looking tent Franco. Is it still being offered? The last product catalog I see on the website is from 2010?Apr 3, 2012 at 12:51 am #1862915
The Speedup is still for sale. The agents are listed on the right side of the screen in the Luxe Outdoor home page.
Sensitivity to colors :
see under "types"
however it is a very complex subject (that I know very little about) because we see with our brain not with our eyes and of course not all see the same colour.
In the end my point was that on different backgrounds we may see green (particularly yellow-green or light greens) easier than some other colours or grey .
(if you camp in a limited area with the same type of vegetation, then a match is a bit easier )
Note just how many types of "camo" fabrics there are…
keep in mind that whatever green you like is not going to be the green someone else wants…
FrancoApr 3, 2012 at 1:50 am #1862919
Your end point could be debated to great lengths because "noticing something" is influenced by many variables, and I'd argue that for blending in, the edge would go to green in most cases.
Camouflage makes my entire point in this discussion. The patterns and colors used for camouflage in an environment, mimic that environment. Militaries would never send urban camo (grays&black) into the hills or forests.
Forest green or mid to dark green is the most common color that tents are produced in. It seems that it is mainly US based brands which most often deviate from this (Marmot, REI, Mountain Hardwear, SD,etc.). I would bet that the majority of tent buyers in the US, don't camp in the wild, or at least don't camp beyond designated campsites. The members of this forum excluded of course.Apr 3, 2012 at 6:48 am #1862951
Six Moon Designs Gatewood Cape comes in forest green. I have mine in grey and I love it, but green would be cool. I don't know what you mean by open on both sides exactly, but the GWC is open all around. You can pitch it so you have a few inches open on all sides with the front being very open.Apr 3, 2012 at 7:46 am #1862975
@kalebcLocale: South West
6 yards of the new zpacks dark green 0.75 cuben A framedApr 3, 2012 at 8:14 am #1862986
Kind of big for one person, but it IS green and open on both sides….. =)Apr 3, 2012 at 8:15 am #1862987
The thread isn't about tarps; the purpose of the tread is to highlight the lack of tentmakers offering two-vestibule or two-door solo tents in green. (or fly panels that stow on each side opening viewing and ventilation)
Users of tarps and two-door, two-person tents reap the benefits and pleasure of expanded viewing, expanded ventilation and expanded access. All of those elements are valuable to all backpackers, yet surprisingly few solo tents offer this combination, and quite rare is this combination in the very common tent color of green.
The only ones known to me are:
Six Moon Designs: Scout/Trekker
LightHeart Gear: Solo/SoLong 6
Mont-bell: Crescent 1
Luxe Outdoor: Mini Peak/Speedup
Black Wolf: Mantis 1
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