VaprLoft Quilts – M50/Apex/SevenDS

Hi Ken, can you please me help me out? What exactly is the issue? Thanks.

The web site is malfunctioning and is a total waste of time.

–B.G.–

Welcome! LESS GEAR WORKS™ designs and builds the Lightest, Engineered backcountry gear on planet from State-of-art materials and techniques that is Simple to use. The gear you will find here pushes the limit of performance to weight ratio, helping you to pack LESS.

Welcome! LESS GEAR WORKS designs and builds the lightest engineered backcountry gear on the planet. Using state of the art materials and techniques that are simple to use. The gear you will find here pushes the limit of performance to weight ratio, helping you to pack LESS.

A little better?

Ken, I think you missed the point on his description. The words he chose to capitalize, spell out the acronym of his company name ("Lightest, Engineered, State-of-the-art, Simple"–>L.E.S.S), so intentionally grammatically incorrect. I agree with your other changes though. Here's my take:

"Welcome! LESS GEAR WORKS™ designs and builds the Lightest Engineered backcountry gear on the planet. By utilizing State-of-art materials and techniques that are user Simple, the gear we've built here pushes the limit of performance to weight ratio, helping you to pack LESS."

On another note–Bob, how is it exactly that you survive everyday social interaction?

Duh! Thanks Conrad. Didn't see that right away.

Ken, no worries.

Regarding other changes: I agree that "using" is better then "from". But I think "gear" singular therefore I used "is". Correct me if I am wrong.

Huzefa, I didn't realize that "state of the art" meant to modify the words "materials" AND "techniques."

I think the confusion lies in that both Ken and I thought you were saying that the techniques were simple to use, not that the Gear itself was simple to use. If you are referring to the Gear, which you seem to be, then yes, "is" is proper.

I would reword my original post to:

"Welcome! LESS GEAR WORKS™ designs and builds the Lightest Engineered backcountry gear on the planet. By utilizing State-of-art materials and techniques, we've created gear that pushes the limit of performance to weight ratio, while still remaining Simple to use. Our equipment helps you pack LESS."

**Sorry, I edited this last post like a gazillion times. But I promise, it's done, and in its final form :)

I would limit the page width to perhaps 800pixels, going the full width is too wide for easy visual consumption. Perhaps just the content in the white space can be limited to 800px?

*Edited to prevent any misunderstanding*

Thanks Konrad.
That was actually a bit funny.

I like the final form. The only issue is that it is no longer a one liner. This means I can not put it at the bottom of every page.

Hi Kaleb,

>Does vapor barrier refer to the quilt not breathing? Yes
>Does 7D breathe? It does. The inner fabric is SevenDs which is silicone impregnated and therefore doesn't breathe.

>What are the advantages of having a vapor barrier quilt?

Good question. Without the VB, the quilt will be good 45f for most people. VB adds 5-10f warmth at no additional weight. Also you donot need a bivy with a VB quilt since shell has a very good DWR and there is no actual transport of sweat taking place from the body to the outside. I make my quilts 54" wide, which is enough to avoid drafts.

If you are interested in learning more about my quilts, contact me at huzefasid@gmail.com.

I tried this, but now I have forgotten to how to align everything to the center. I will look into it tomorrow.

Thanks Konrad. A gold star for you.

Huzefa, are you going to work on that cuben fiber air pad again? Or is there a reason it didn't come to production. Seemed there was a bunch of interest (me included) when you posted about it.

Side note: "Engineered Backcountry Gear" has a nice ring to it. ;)

"On another note–Bob, how is it exactly that you survive everyday social interaction?"

Konrad, please explain.

When I looked at it, the web site was completely broken. I couldn't imagine why any webmaster would solict comments about it when it was that bad.

–B.G.–

Hi Steve,

The original design used taped baffles which resulted in peel forces on the seems. I also tried sewn seams and many different adhesives but could not seal the sewn holes.

I have a new design where tape is under sheer and should be much stronger and reliable. The only issue is that I can't get a good seal around the valve. I have looked at making a custom valve but I have to buy 10000pcs. Thats why the project is on hold.

>Side note: "Engineered Backcountry Gear" has a nice ring to it. ;)

Yes :)

Bob,

There are 3 sections: "Adventures" is for my future trip reports, "Philosophy" is for my thoughts on gear and techniques, and "Gear" is for webstore. The first 2 are not active currently and the Gear redirects to this thread. This is a preview only.

I will be launching my products and (website) only after extensive testing this June in himalayas. Currently I am accepting preorders (only from BPL members who have directly contacted me) to raise funding for the expedition and kick start my business.

Are you located in the US? Is it necessary to do testing in the Himalayas? Is your gear list working?

I am located in India. My gear list is confidential :)

"On another note–Bob, how is it exactly that you survive everyday social interaction?"

Konrad, I am still waiting to see your explanation of what you meant by this.

–B.G.–

Bob, I was hinting at the fact that you were a little crass , given that it's abundantly clear that Huzefa just started his business and website. In other words, cut the guy some slack. Why offer criticisms that add little value when instead you can help the individual improve? The skeleton of his website is there, and there's enough info to give us an idea of what he hopes to achieve.

These are the little social cues in life that I would expect people to understand.

Other another note…do you not have anything better to do then to feverishly recheck this thread, awaiting my response?

Konrad, our time was wasted in previewing a web site that really wasn't ready for prime time. At least in this country, we don't put them on the air until they are 99% ready. The web site was not introduced as a skeleton, as you put it.

Konrad, you personally attacked me. That is why I've been watching. I accept your apology.

–B.G.–

I would try highlighting the first letters of the key words in a contrasting font color to make them stand out more, so that the L.E.S.S. is more obvious. I'm impressed someone earlier picked up on that. I don't think I ever would have

Bob,
LOL to everything in your post. I didn't realize that there was a standard operating procedure to website publishing in the U.S. I must have missed that memo. Did you make sure to let all users of tumblr, yahoo, and any other website domain provider in this country know?

Cheers.

"LOL to everything in your post. I didn't realize that there was a standard operating procedure to website publishing in the U.S. I must have missed that memo."

Konrad, no humor intended. There is no standard operating procedure, but there is a relatively standard process before you go live, and it has virtually nothing to do with the domain providers. I created an entire corporate web site years ago. Only a few trusted reviewers were given the initial address so that it could be live tested.

–B.G.–

>Only a few trusted reviewers were given the initial address so that it could be live tested.

I thought I could trust fellow BPL members. You are making it seem like its a mistake.