May 22, 2011 at 8:21 am #1739592John NausiedaBPL Member
Why not just buy one of these ? They are cheap. Pretty light. Does it all.
http://www.amazon.com/inch-Thai-Aluminum-Hotpot-serves/dp/B00012F3O0/ref=lh_ni_t_May 22, 2011 at 10:32 am #1739625
How would you propose to pack your design? With Ti foil construction and no rigid base, what's to keep it from getting crushed?May 22, 2011 at 12:17 pm #1739659
"How would you propose to pack your design?"
The 0,03in ti foil I am thinking of is reported to spring back, ie doesnt remember bends, like aluminium: so just collapse around pot, and place in stuff sac, in an outer rucsac pocket/ strapped to rucsac I would suppose.
If collapse-able foil one piece fire base, doesnt work out well for packing,
I could keep the traditional cone solid firebase, as used by back country boiler and other chimney kettles, storing it upside down inside the upper cone, just like the well
the standard kettles store.
Steve Martell: thanks for carbonx idea.May 22, 2011 at 2:53 pm #1739727Franco DarioliBPL Member
@francoLocale: Gauche, CU.
Why not just buy one of these ?
Yes only 3 pounds and just one foot wide…
the Swiss Volcano thingo was meant to be used with alcohol/Esbit and the Borde stove.
That is with a somewhat confined flame, so not wood.
(so don't look too closely at that design…)
Your step 1 and 2 are not going to work…
Just for fun ask someone with a Ti Caldera Cone to pick that up with boiling water inside and try to pour water out of it.
I actually have that but don't really need to do it to figure the outcome.
FrancoMay 22, 2011 at 4:01 pm #1739755
OK so you got me on my original post here. You should build one and start your own thread.May 23, 2011 at 12:13 pm #1740110
"Your step 1 and 2 are not going to work…
Just for fun ask someone with a Ti Caldera Cone to pick that up with boiling water inside and try to pour water out of it."
1) The diagram shows a pot grab: I used that on my prototype.
I am not sure what point 2 is.
Ken: I don't need another pot, the pot is viewed as part of the kettle: you cant drink straight out of the back country boiler, so I don't view leaving the blackened pot in the boiler as a minus compared to it.
NB The idea is to appeal to extreme ultra-light persons, for whom the BCB is too heavy, with a few little compromises whilst keeping its main advantages, not to compete directly.
Also, an inverse chimney is the only MYOG way I can think of, that doesn't involve a lathe or DWI machine.May 23, 2011 at 12:45 pm #1740130
Well build one and let's see how happy you are with it.May 23, 2011 at 2:23 pm #1740174brent driggersBPL Member
@cadyakLocale: southwest georgia
"I think I might.
The stainless version worked OK so far: 2in gap between pot and standard fire-base.
and a top lit twigs fire boiled 500ml in approx 7 minutes, without refuelling."
Yours is an interesting idea. I am having a hard time visualizing how your top vents work. I would be interested in seeing your stainless version that already works. Thin stainless makes nice stoves. If you do post some pictures maybe you could start a new thread without Backcountry Boiler in the title.May 24, 2011 at 1:34 pm #1740599
Ti/Lighter conventional BCB:
presumably the BCB fire-base could be made of titanium.
Alternatively if that is not lighter than alu, then what about ti foil around a wire skeleton.
I get the impression the BCB stow-away fire-base is liked, for compactness.
For my alternative comprise ideas I may start a new thread: "Inverse cone chimney kettle" (too tired now).
NB the vents in my stainless steel cone are just 4 large triangles near cone top("pointing up") biased to cone's rear hemisphere (with respect to input vents in fire base). One (the left one) is slighter deeper, just large enough to feed sticks through.May 25, 2011 at 5:33 am #1740830
How awesome for Devin. 16 days to go still and just shy of $46,000.Jun 2, 2011 at 9:20 pm #1744290
One week to go. $51,341 469 backers! Kick Ass Devin!Jun 2, 2011 at 9:45 pm #1744302
Hey, hey, thanks Ken! I'm going to send out the "one week left" message to the mailing list tomorrow. I'd really like to get over the 500 backers mark.
Not bad for a BPL MYOG project. :)Jun 2, 2011 at 9:46 pm #1744303
I'd like to see you make the 60k mark. Best of luck!Sep 27, 2011 at 1:50 pm #1784065JPBPL Member
–Sep 27, 2011 at 1:58 pm #1784069David UreMember
No – still waiting. Should be soon?Sep 27, 2011 at 4:00 pm #1784117
Hey Josh, David,
Soon is still the word. I had hoped to have them out, but the shop ran into some problems with the machine used for one of the parts. They've been trouble-shooting for the past week+ sending the electronics here and there for analysis. We're working on a work-around and I'll be up there tomorrow to hopefully approve it and get the first few finished parts out of there.
DevinSep 27, 2011 at 5:34 pm #1784154Eric BlumensaadtBPL Member
@danepackerLocale: Mojave Desert
If all you want to do is boil water this is "OK".
But I'd much rather have the versatility of a stove/pot combo that can also COOK.Sep 27, 2011 at 6:13 pm #1784174
Yes Eric. Isn't it great to have choices.
You're such a pimp. ShamelessSep 27, 2011 at 7:06 pm #1784204adam spatesMember
One day I will be able to afford one.
In the meantime, I'm jealous of your ingenuity and proud of your success.
Its great to see the amazing free enterprise at its best for a good guy!
I wish you even more success with your product/future products!
Just to reiterate what others have said…job well done Devin!Sep 27, 2011 at 8:03 pm #1784235
Thanks for such kind words, Adam. It really wouldn't have happened but for the support from this forum.Sep 27, 2011 at 8:09 pm #1784239Gary DunckelBPL Member
Devin, you are truly an innovative man, a gracious BPLer, and a good and decent man. I wish you all the best in this next chapter. Keep on keepin' on!Sep 28, 2011 at 2:22 am #1784304
Thanks, Gary. Likewise!Nov 2, 2011 at 9:02 am #1797760David UreMember
Any idea on whether these have been completed and when they will be sent out to the early adopters?Jan 29, 2012 at 8:45 am #1831201
I got a shipping confirmation on January 18th. It is now the 29th. Priority mail. No package. No tracking update. Crazy.
Nervously waiting. I really want to take one to the GGG.Jan 29, 2012 at 9:37 am #1831222Brad WalkerMember
I got the same email with a tracking number and last week was finally worried that the package was lost our something so I emailed Devin. I'll quote his email for ease since I'm on my phone…I hope he doesn't mind.
"These emails are sent automatically as soon as we print a label, but we're still working on getting some of these in mail. As soon as USPS has it, which should be Monday, the tracking info will update and you can follow it.
I know it's a bit confusing, but the program we use offers either this email or nothing. Sorry!"
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