3rd Annual Bay Area BPL Hike

The competitors supply their own cook pots, since some stoves are particular about that. The cook pot has to be strong enough that a competitor can stand on it. Otherwise, somebody will show up with a cook pot made out of aluminum foil.

The judge supplies the water to be boiled. The water will be in a jug at ambient air temperature, whatever that is, and the judge places exactly 16 ounces of it into each of several smaller bottles. That way, the water should all be the same. Each competitor picks one of those smaller bottles of water and applies every drop of it to his or her cook pot. That way, the competitors can't get an advantage out of the water.

Competition grade wood? The mind boggles. If there is no kindling involved, the wood had better be pretty small in diameter, perhaps 1/4" pine dowel rod from a store. One large pinch of firestarter from the judge might level the playing field there.

It will be tough to decide when the water is exactly boiling. You can't put a thermometer in there, because that would interfere with the lid. You might have to go by sight, but that is pretty subjective. You might have to have instrumentation.

–B.G.–

@ bob
in the scouts we would put soap in the water. that way when it boils it really boils and come out the top of the pot.
don't really want to drink it though.

I think I have a wireless thermometer we use in the kitchen. I wonder if there might be enough of these in peoples kitchens. Of course then we would need a calibrate off. Maybe we don't want to go there. Maybe transparent lids could be provided or the lids come off close to, but hopefully just before we believe the water is going up boil with a team of spotters looking for the boil.

I hope I get to see this.

Mark

If the contest had five competitors going at once, then we would need five sets of temperature instrumentation. If we did them sequentially, we could get by with one set.

If lids are on the cook pots, and the cook pots have different volumes, then the steam will rise over the liquid and exit a hole in the lid at different times. So, that is not perfect.

A wireless thermometer probe could be stuck on something so that the temperature is measured from the center of the liquid.

–B.G.–

Anyone bringing a zip stove ?

Do the stoves have to be reusable ?

DQ for burning the ground ?

Maybe the judge should supply a single, flat, fireproof surface for each competitor to use. That would level the playing field, literally.

–B.G.–

Secured the spots for Saturday. Manzanita Point. Group spots 9 and 10. We will be able to have a few support vehicles at camp with us to add to the backcountry experience. So might as well make the use of it. Firewood, coolers, and chairs. Oh my!

I have not yet reserved a spot for Friday. I was thinking of the car camping area by the park hq. Any other suggestions?

Thanks to all who have paid so far. I really appreciate it.

"I was thinking of the car camping area by the park hq."

Where is that?

–B.G.–

computer anomaly :)

This is my RSVP. I clicked to watch this thread but didn't receive the updates so I'm catching up on the changes. May need a ride, I'm in San Luis Obispo if anyone is passing through from the south on the 101. Looking forward to it!

Ryan

couple of questions since there has been a change of venue

1. is this a better hike for kids than ventanna
2. could this hike be done at night should we by chance show up late afternoon on friday??

im just trying to weigh the options looks like jack cannot get out of work friday so if we carpool we will have to leave after that plus the option to bring my son
might come in to play if its do able

looks like 3.5 hrs drive for us so im just trying to find the best solution to make the trip the least hectic as possible for everyone

ken t i will pp you soon i promise just need to figure out how many im actually going to have

thanks all can t wait to see everyone there

kevin

Kevin: Manzanita point is an easy hike for kids. Not too much up and down.

this is an easier hike than ventana. We did this as a day hike with my daughter when she was 3 or 4. The hike can be easily done at night. The trail is easy to follow, or if you were particularly concerned, you could most likely follow the road since it's rather easy to follow.

I haven't been to Coe since budget cutbacks… I am not sure what evening entry is like these days. Anyone?

Also for kids… if you hoof it back to the HQ, there is a semi loop that has a self guided nature trail. My memory is that the loop was a pretty easy ~2 miles? and had something like 24 stops along the way. The kids we took seemed to enjoy it.

–Mark

Kevin, much much easier than Ventana. Two group sites have been secured. Ken, did you get the paypal I sent you? We are allowed two cars to drive in. The catch is, they cannot drive back out until the next day. So if someone wants to just drive in, then the would have to hike out and hike back in again. At least we can have a fire….a REAL fire, unlike last year with the charcoals that Tony was so kind to bring in. This should be a fun trip!

ok ill bring him
please add ryan smith to the list for me and ill bring him along

if he made it to wildcat im sure he will make it to this camp

paypal inbound to ken t

so for my group it will be

kevin smith
jack elliott
ryan smith
ryan krause

just in case you need to update the list

thanks all
kevin

ok one rule that needs to be followed on this trip

all the SNORING PEOPLE must camp in spot number 10 no acceptions LOL

THIS MEANS YOU JUMPBACKJACK!! everyone else can just wear ear plugs and camp in spot #9 lol

just kidding guys it will be awesome to see everyone there

happy new year everyone

kevin

Kevin, got it! All confirmed

thanks ken h

i sent ken t the pp so we are all good to go

60 days out and im already excited

kevin

We have an un-official count of 53 at the moment. We have a total of 80 allowed, so we still have space for others to join!

Shameless social marketing bump Last weekend in Feb. Moved to Henry Coe State Park

http://wiki.backpackinglight.com/3rd_Annual_San_Francisco_Bay_Area_BPL_Gathering_and_Marketer_Free_Outdoor_Gear_Show%2C_Plus_Swap_Meet

Must surely be the largest non-commercial display of lightweight/ultralight equipment anywhere.

Still room for more to attend.

To help defer cost on the procurement of 2 group spots #9 and10. I would like to ask that each person attending donate $2. It's a big chunk of change for Ken and I to front. This can be paid in advance. To keep things simple you can do a personal Paypal transfer to kenthompson2@mac.com Your help is appreciated and will make this type of event possible. If you have a problem or suggestion please PM me. Thanks. We in no way are looking to profit from this.

I will be there Friday and may be able to help shuttle a couple to another trailhead. Pm me your plans.

Thanks to those who have RSVP and paid already.

Want to do the swap meet at camp?

I will be in site#11 at the campground by the headquarters Friday night.

I think there are some adjacent sites available if anyone wants to grab them.

See you there neighbor. I have secured #13 for Friday.

Those coming in Feb. Remember that the park charges for parking. Carpooling is therefore encouraged.

Is this for card carrying members only, or is it open to all?

All are welcome…