3-Season pack list – help me cut weigh

so many places to save weight, it looks like you are going to a hotel instead of backpacking, an almost 6oz towel, shaving cream and razor a shower, mirror, deodorant, hair brush, potty trowel is heavy, a second backpack that is 13oz, 2 headlamps, your knife is on the heavy side, first aid kit is heavy, over a half pound for hydration(not including your water treatment),stove, pot and lid heavy, wind screen heavy, bowl heavy …..

Here is some general info for you to look at that I post for newer members(maybe you have seen it I don’t know) SUGGESTED GEAR LIST ETIQUETTE
Mike Clelland(NOLs instructor and author, his books are very good),he has some great free videos on lightening up be sure to watch(his clothing system,the entire contents of his pack,water treatment and part 1 and 2 on the dinky stuff for ideas),this is pmagsBackpacking: A Beginners Primer, Lightweight Backpacking 101, Jack of All Trades gear and The Frugal Backpacker – The $300 Gear Challenge alsoThe Budget Backpacking Kit.These are some other articles and videos for you to check out

MY 11 LB GEAR LIST FOR $207 TOTAL

Backpacking for Cheap: Gear for the Gearless

Backpacking Checklist (Gear List): 3-Season, 3-Day

Lightweight Backpacking 101: An Introductory Manual for Lightening Your Load Today (1st Edition – August 2001)

Cheap Ultralight Gear List

You Can Get An Ultralight Backpacking Kit At REI!

Oregon Field Guide: Ultralight Hiking

Lightweight Testimony: Lighter, Farther, Faster
Jamie Shortt talks about his progression and shows his gear list for each stage,Lightweight Testimony: My Journey into Lightweight Backpacking
CleverHiker Light weight Basics
CleverHiker Trail Skills

Adventure Alan 9 Pound – Full Comfort – Lightweight Backpacking Gear List

Adventure Alan Quick ways to reduce backpack weight

Andrew Skurka has a very good website with trips and gear lists for you to check out, here is a talk he gave at google
Ultimate Hiking Gear & Skills Clinic
His book is worth checking out also
The Ultimate Hiker’s Gear Guide: Tools & Techniques to Hit the Trail

Why “waterproof” shoes will not keep your feet dry

Minimizing the effects and aftermath of wet feet

LAYERING FOR BEGINNERS

THE BEST CLOTHING COMBINATIONS FOR BACKPACKING OR HIKING?

A NEW PARADIGM FOR UNDERSTANDING GARMENT WARMTH

Andrew Skurka’s Core 13 Backpacking Clothing

Dave Chenault’s response to Skurka’s Core 13

On hiking in winter

Dave’s All about insulation

Dave’s 30s and raining: some suggestions
You can get little repackaging containers(like the ones you see in Mike Clelland uses in his videos) many places including your local stores and pharmacy but here are some examples
USPLASTICS
USPLASTICS
.Mountain Lite Gear.
GossamerGear
MountainLaurelDesigns

. Litesmith .

You could make toothpaste dots like Mike C. shows or there are Archtek Toothpaste Tablets so only bring exactly what you need in a snack size bag for any given trip instead of a whole tube and THESE are good for little thing like pills, toothpaste tablets ect. so you are not packing a whole bottle(you can also get them very cheap at most pharmacies)

Also, get a scale and don’t depend upon “published” weights or guesses, or settle for 0.1 oz accuracy. A digital fish scale is good for bigger stuff, and a 1kg digital scale accurate to 0.1g is fairly inexpensive these days and perfect for the smaller stuff.

I am a bit dubious of overall accuracy when I see at the bottom a 110g canister that weighs… 110g. An empty canister weighs 100g, so that should be 210g total. I can’t imagine what the heck is in a 142g FAK.

It all adds up… and there’s a whole bunch of knick-knacks in there that could be dispensed with. Best to read through all of Link’s links and look at Mike C’s videos. Really need to simplify and cull out a lot of stuff.

Good news: Your “Big Three” of pack, bag and shelter are all reasonable weights.  Those are the expensive things to change out.

More good news: LOTS of low-hanging fruit here.

12 tent stakes?!?  I know you have a tarp and need some stakes, but an area either has trees or rocks, right?  If you haven’t ever used them all, leave some home.  Get creative when needed.  Bring 25 feet of braided fishing line = 6 grams = enough to reach a few rocks or trees.

“Summit pack, 370 grams” I use a 20-liter sil-nylon travel pack.  Folds up to the size of a lemon, name brand ones (Sea to Summit) cost $30-ish.  I’ve got a bunch on eBay for $10-ish.  2.4 to 2.7 ounces = 75 grams.  Doubles as one of your stuff sacks.

“Swiss Army Knife, 62 grams”  A SAK Classic is 21 grams.  TSA-seized ones are $5.  You don’t (at least shouldn’t) need a can opener or cork screw).

I see 231 grams of lights and batteries (not even counting the PowerBank.  Except for winter camping, a zebra light (41 grams) with a lithium battery in it (+15 grams) does more (brighter bright, lower low) at a quarter the total weight.

“Firestarting, 50 grams” a mini-Bic is 11 grams.  A square inch of waxed cardboard (produce box form behind the groceries store) is 3 grams.

“Bowls, 92 grams” cut the bottom off of an HDPE gallon or half-gallon milk jug.  15-20 grams.  As deep as you want.  Two will nest.  Free at the recycling center.

First Aid kit and repair kit – ones you assemble yourself are always more functional and lighter than any store-bought version.  You’re already carrying the dental floss and some tape, so two speciality needles, a few safety pins and you’re done on the repair kit.  I always bring a glover’s needle.  Sometimes a curved one.  You can get both (plus others) for $1.79 at any grocery or fabric store:

First aid kit for me is mostly knowing how to use my other gear as splints, bandages, warmth, etc.  Specific FA items in my kit are a very few drugs (Benadryl, NSAIs, a laxative and an anti-diarrheal), 1-2 days supply of each, a few Bandaids, and tiny professional samples of anti-fungal and antibiotic lotions.  I successfully reattached my finger tip on a NZ tramp last year with that stuff (still attached, has sensation, looks pretty good, although my fingerprint did change a bit).

There are other savings to be had, but broadly, if you didn’t use it on your last trip, leave it behind on your next trip.  If you didn’t use all the xxxxxxx on your last trip, bring half as much of xxxxxx next time.

I use a very thin, light REI towel that measures 15″ x 15″ and weighs 17 grams.  Holding it corner to corner, it’s big enough to dry my back.  When it gets saturated, I wring it out and it continues to work fine.  I sewed an extra tab on the corner opposite the existing tab and hang it off the back of my pack.  Dries in a jiffy.

https://www.rei.com/product/836298/rei-mini-multitowel

(your towel: 162 gm, 24″ x 48″)

Be nice to hear back from the OP.

Another fantastically helpful post from Link.

Thank you all for great info and tips – all very helpful!  I’ll be doing a gear shakedown soon and post back with me revised gear list.

More Good Stuff from Alan Dixon.

Link beat you to it Bob ;) Don’t mess with the Master!

Figures!

I should’ve known that wouldn’t escape her attention. ;^)