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Unwritten Rules of Backpacking with Buddies

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PostedDec 9, 2009 at 11:11 am

"I don't know about you all….but rarely does anyone I hike with get naked. Being that it is often freezing cold/soggy or bug infested one might see why."

Umm, I was referring to stuff like changing clothes. This is particularly tricky in a hut situation and you simply learn not to look. If someone wants to swim in the buff or bathe, they usually let you know in advance so there are no surprises. I spent too many years kayaking to be shy about getting my wet clothes off in a group of folks…

The 'best' nude event I ever saw was when it was cold, soggy and buggy. We were staying in a hut, and one of the guys volunteered to go to the creek for water. He didn't want to put his wet clothes back on just to get water, so wearing nothing more than his boots, and carrying a pot like a fig leaf, he set out at a jog to do his manly duty for the rest of us. It was really quite hilarious!

PostedDec 9, 2009 at 12:35 pm

Lol! OK, I had to poke that one. I swear everyone I hike with wears the same crusty clothing day in, day out. You get wet, you wear your clothing till it dries….

We are not "shy" or "prudish" just rather there is not often any reason for us to strip down. And honestly, in our group the majority of us were never into being naturists and didn't grow up where we felt the need to get naked in front of those we are not married to.

Out here huts are few to be found and nearly always are private property, trails shelters are few and moldering into the ground…usually occupied by mice and bugs (no stoves or fireplaces) and 3 sided, open to the wind. If one does need to change….that is what their tarp or tent is for. It is a heck of a lot warmer!

PostedDec 9, 2009 at 12:50 pm

Yeah, at the end of the day, most folks change into something drier and less dirty. For many of us (me included) good hygiene also means having a wash at the end of the day. This is either in a river or from a water tank. Either way, it involves getting naked, but you let people know "I'm just going out for a quick wash". People give you some space for this. Occasionally we will even wash in the hut if there is a sink and tap water. Depends on how bad the weather is outside…

PostedDec 9, 2009 at 5:35 pm

"For me there is only one rule: choose your partners well."

Essential.

PostedDec 9, 2009 at 7:51 pm

No advice is given unless its asked for.

Sharing is okay but if you know you will want something you should bring it.

farting, smoking, drinking, cussing is all okay by me.

If its supposed to be a guys trip don't bring your wife or girlfriend.

joseph

D S BPL Member
PostedDec 9, 2009 at 8:22 pm

Thou shalt not take pictures of other members, well….member, and then show them at the post trip get together with friends. I guess that other rule applies here, "Choose your hiking buds wisely lest yee be blasted!" Thankfully, not my member but rather the member of one of our members member on our JMT thru hike.

couch

PostedDec 9, 2009 at 9:44 pm

if someone can do something better than you, then let them do it. building a fire? hanging a bear bag? dont insist you are the expert when you arent…

PostedDec 9, 2009 at 10:21 pm

The reason I like backpacking is because I enjoy so much my first hot shower and a cold beer. (not exactly…)
But since I am not prepared to carry my own beer nor the Sea to Summit shower thingo (gratuitous plug, but it is only 2 oz) I do not expect anyone to share his/hers beverages with me, nor their showers .
So if you carry the stuff in don't feel embarrassed about not sharing.
BTW my personal preference for solo tents is because I would not share my tent with someone like me. The exception is a mate of mine that falls asleep instantly and only wakes up when something happens (ie not me snoring,peeing ,grunting and global warming)
BTW, I do realise that sharing food is very "tribal" but I also think that most cases of intestinal problems on the trail are not caused by contaminated water but poor hygiene.

Franco

PostedDec 10, 2009 at 12:27 am

Before you go, check if your friend is bringing beer. Then you don't have to make me feel bad for drinking beer. Especially if you normally hike with me and you know I always bring beer. 'I just didn't think' isn't an excuse!
If you do share a tent, take your waterproofs off before you get in, even if it's hammering down with rain, so you don't shake water evrywhere taking off your waterproofs in the tent.
If you do fart, make sure it's loud so that there isn't just an unexplained and vile smell.
If your pack is lighter than your friend's then don't compare weight. Don't even pick up his or her pack subtly just to feel smug inside yourself becuase you know he will notice!

PostedDec 10, 2009 at 1:26 am

So far I have only seen "beer flavour" concentrates, this looks promising. Now keep an eye on that and let us know when it is ready.
This could be bigger than the Neo Air saga.
Franco

PostedDec 10, 2009 at 6:17 am

Back Country Beer! this is a genious idea. I think BPL should get behind this as a coporate sponsor! Then maybe… just maybe we could get a members discount on the goods!

not sure if the beer mix falls under a luxury or must have item…

Sanad Toukhly BPL Member
PostedDec 10, 2009 at 7:37 am

It's kind of funny that they are coming out with dehydrated beer. I have a buddy who think it's the strangest thing in the world that I go backpacking in the woods all by myself without any beer. I used to always tell him it's too heavy. He said the only reason he hasn't taken up backpacking is because he wants to drink beer every night if he does go… maybe now he'll be able to.

-Sid

PostedDec 10, 2009 at 7:55 am

I have hiked with a loosely knit group for so many years that we all have a rhythm.
Since most of us are friends outside of hiking now it is common that some sleep over at our house. They are like family. Just family with a long drive over if they want to hike in the Cascades.
We also car pool or have my husband drop us off.

So the rules:
1) Starting early is not an option. This is so we can do all of the below.

2)Stopping at Safeway and Starbuck's is not an option. It always happens on the way out of town. Newbies figure this out quickly

3) Someone will want McDonald's in the back seat. We will stop.

4) Someone will need a last minute bathroom break at the last flush toilet. Plan in time.

5) Good food is meant to be shared. Always have enough of something special to share. It is the way. See above stop at Safeway for last minute buys.

6) Have your pack ready to go when we hit the trailhead. Boots on is a plus. We just don't get people who pack at the trailhead to say the least ;-)

7) There is no such thing as "group gear". You want it, you haul it.

8) There is nothing wrong with making private deals with friends on sharing items. Just don't assume people want to do a deal – you have to know them well.

9) If someone's gear breaks or fails, lend them yours unless they are a jerk. But we try to keep jerks to a minimum.

10) If someone has a hard day and gives the silent treatment, temper tantrums or a crying fit just ignore it. Then when they are in a better mood poke them for it. It happens.

11) In camp we eat as a group but each of us prepares our own meal (unless we have a deal between friends). We always offer leftover hot water to anyone who needs/wants it. Need spices? Honey? Tea packets? Help yourself.

12) If you see someone with no energy, offer to help them put up their shelter, get water for the group or tie off the Ursacks at night. If you get up early and get your Ursack, get everyone else's and take them to the kitchen area. The nice person boils water for morning drinks if they have sleepy heads with them!

13) Hike at your own pace. As long as you have map skills it is OK to be behind. If you have a newbie, don't ditch them though.

14) Never be an overbearing LNT douche bag. It is annoying and guess what? We all know it. We don't need or want to hear about your LNT master training for 40 miles.

15) If moral is down be sure to talk about all the beer, pop, ice tea and pizza you will buy when done. Talking about food seems to always help. Then pull out that treat you bought back on day 1 and share it.

16) It is always flat along the ridgeline. Don't ruin my fantasy!

17) After hike, eating out is nearly always done. I am observant enough to know who cannot afford it and I or someone else will cover your bill. We know how it is to be in that position and will never embarrass you. Going out to eat seems to work as this awesome way to bond over the trip and not just disappear on the wind at the trailhead, with cars driving away. And no one passes up a hot meal and a cold drink unless they are an idiot……

PS: Most of us don't care about being fashion plates and often smell like well traveled yaks at the end. Most of us don't care about bathing on trail, wearing deodorant or carrying fresh clothing for changing into in camp. It is a good idea to carry new clothes for the car. If you want. We don't care. That is what home is for – that shower so hot it sears you.
Most of us don't share shelters. They are small and it is our tiny box of privacy.
If Dicentra and I are on a trip together we will talk the entire trip, from sun up to bed time. Get used to it. If you don't want to hear us, walk faster with the boys. We will see you in camp.

PostedDec 10, 2009 at 9:22 am

Benjamin Franklin said that "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

This dehydrated beer suggests that God's name just might be Pat.

Luke Schmidt BPL Member
PostedDec 10, 2009 at 9:54 am

If you want to make thirty miles a day there better be a general agreement on it. Otherwise its not worth the strain on friendships when someone can't keep up.
Also even if you're feeling fine it seems appropriate to at least act tired if someone else is suffering more than you.
Humor is good. My friend teases me constantly about my "bookbag" (small golite pack)and I tease him about his "Gregory tower"(Gregory expedition pack).

John Brochu BPL Member
PostedDec 10, 2009 at 9:56 am

>>>15) If moral is down be sure to talk about all the beer, pop, ice tea and pizza you will buy when done. Talking about food seems to always help.<<<

Quite a while ago I read about a discussion a couple of climbers where having during an unplanned bivy high on an alpine peak, and they spent most of the night talking about beer and food to pass the time.

One of them said something like, "if we had some bacon we could have bacon and eggs, if we had any eggs…"

It always cracks me up everytime I think of that quote.

PostedDec 10, 2009 at 10:11 am

>>>10) If someone has a hard day and gives the silent treatment, temper tantrums or a crying fit just ignore it. Then when they are in a better mood poke them for it. It happens.

That is great advice.

PostedDec 10, 2009 at 10:16 am

Sarah's last comments really make me wonder why she would want to hike with these other people. Sounds like a lot of hassle and not much benefit. Oh well, as long as you HYOH.

PostedDec 10, 2009 at 10:25 am

I don't know, sounds like ours, except the having your pack ready at the trailhead. We always go to the same place, and take all fresh food, some requiring "refrigeration". Besides, the beer and wine need to be cold. So, almost everyone takes an ice chest and transfers stuff from it to their pack (this food goes in the river at the camp site). Besides, there is always that piece of gear that you forgot and just have to have, so you stopped at REI on the way up. ;-)

Tom Caldwell BPL Member
PostedDec 10, 2009 at 11:45 am

This thread helps remind me that I'm not much of a social creature. I don't like chit chat all that much, or talking about my life or someone else's life. You can only talk gear so long. I mostly hike alone.

PostedDec 10, 2009 at 1:29 pm

Ben and I survived – even talking politics. I only wish I had more cake to make and share ;-) That last night was nice – when we all had a fire.

I would say that for the most part in our group we hike as individuals together for friendship. That can be very different for folks who grew up with Boy Scouts or did group trips where the individual doesn't exist. One good friend I met years ago (who went on to perform my husband's and I marriage) had only done those kinds of trips. We argued for years online before we hiked together. He for sure thought we were all heathens. Then he was "oh I get it!" The concept that we all have a happy medium – we have "our gear" "our style" "our pace" "our fruity diet that no one else wants to eat" but we still crave companionship on our journeys.

And so our rag tag group picks up people yearly who are just like us, the misfits who together work well. I can think of a few who post here I call friends now and would hike with nearly anywhere – Hoosierdaddy is my best example. Him and I are polar opposites yet it works. TwoFourtyJeff, Rooinator and others go into that group as well.

It is that easy acceptance that makes it work. I am sure we would drive organized groups batty within minutes. Lol!

PostedDec 10, 2009 at 1:45 pm

"That can be very different for folks who grew up with Boy Scouts or did group trips where the individual doesn't exist."

Actually, it has nothing to do with that. To me, it's all about lightening up. Sharing a tent, stove, pots, fuel and bits and pieces just makes good sense from a UL point of view. I mean, two people in a Refuge-X means a mere 8oz per person for a fully enclosed tarptent. Awesome!!! Two folks sharing a Ti-Tri is just too cool and efficient. And having two people to split up camp chores is also nice. I'll cook dinner while you get the tent set up. Then you can do the dishes :)

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