Apr 17, 2009 at 1:07 pm #1235665
I am trying to put together my gear for the summer and have added some weight but still sifting through it. I know its not SUL but I am wondering how It stacks.
Opsprey Varient 28 (1700) ci 2.6lbs I now its heavy but I wanted a good crosover climbing pack and for the extra pound I like the comfort and durability. I can leave the lid off to save about 8 ounces.
Lafuma fastnlight 30 down 1.11 lbs doing a product review price/weight cost $99.00 new
Sea to summit poncho tarp. 12 ounces, Again heavy but durable.
Ridgerest trimmed to 16×40 6 ounces. Ive yet to find a pad that I sleep better on than this.
Total big 3+1 5lbs 3 ounces
I often go lighter than this but I was trying to get a no worries bombprood set up. I am planning quite a few off-trail trips and dont want to have to baby my gear.
So now that I have gotten fat how do I stack up? I'm not looing for lighter suggestions although they are welcome, I'm just curious how I compare to the pro's here. AliApr 17, 2009 at 1:20 pm #1494931
Jim MacDiarmidBPL Member
(Edited to include pad)
Gossamer Gear Gorilla (2800ci) – 22.75oz
WM Summerlite – 19oz
Pad – trimmed z-lite + GG sitlight (pack back pad) – 7.25
TT Rainbow – 30
Total=79 oz 4lbs, 15 oz
I can remove the stays from the Gorilla and save another ~3.5oz if I want. I'm just not ready to go with a frameless backpack yet, but the Gorilla offers the chance to experiment with it. My shelter is my heavy item. I impulsively bought it on ebay a month ago, and have yet to use it, but am already considering ditching it for a tarp/bivy combo that could weigh half as much. I got a Oware Cattarp2 on the forums for a good price, and my first couple trips this spring, I'll probably bring it along and play around with it, having the rainbow there as my security blanket. I just want to learn site selection and pitching technique before I rely on a tarp as my only shelter.Apr 17, 2009 at 1:27 pm #1494932
John MyersBPL Member
@dallasLocale: North Texas
I'm no pro and certainly not as light as many here, but my basic summer big 3 list is:
ZPack Blast pack 7.5 oz
Hennessey Hammock (modified) 25 oz
MLD tarp 7 oz
JRB quilt 23 oz
GG insulating pad w/silk liner 9 oz
4.5 lbs more or less.
If taking the Golite Pinnacle pack, add a pound.
If taking a tent (GG Squall Classic) instead, add another pound for the BA IAC pad.
(what does the +1 refer to?)Apr 17, 2009 at 1:31 pm #1494933
The plus one is your sleeping pad. I was curious what people use and the weights. AliApr 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm #1494936
@cbertLocale: N. California
most of my trips are weekend trips – this is what i usually use now for those trips
Zpacks Blast 18 – (1800 cu in / 3.2 oz)
Montbell alpine downhugger #5 or Nunatak Arc Ghost (each~18oz)
BA insulated Airecore mummy (~21oz)
MLD bug bivy or bivy and/or BL Nano-0 tarp (bivies ~6.5-8.5 oz, tarp ~4.5oz). Have often brought but seldom used the tarp.
So total around 49-55 oz or so, roughly 3 – 3.5 lbsApr 17, 2009 at 1:42 pm #1494937
Bob BankheadBPL Member
@wandering_bobLocale: Oregon, USA
NOTE THAT THESE WEIGHTS INCLUDE STUFF SACKS, TENT PEGS & LINES, ETC.; BASICALLY WHAT THE COMPLETE OBJECT WEIGHS AS IT GOES INTO THE PACK. Those little "extras" add up.
Pack = SMD Traveler with hipbelt pockets and stays………….31 oz
Bag = WM Hooded Aspen (aka Sycamore) with eVent compression sack…….38 oz
Shelter: SMD Gatewood Cape/Serenity Net Tent combo…..20 oz with pegs and lines
Subtotal = 89 oz = 5.6 pounds
Pads: depends on which I take. If there's an over-abundance of sharp objects around (i.e. PCT desert sections), I leave the inflatable at home. If not, it goes.
Desert: using Ridgerest 20×72 at 14 oz;
total weight = 103 oz = 6.4 pounds
Mountains: using BA Insulated Air Core 20×72 at 24 oz;
total weight = 113 oz = 7.1 poundsApr 17, 2009 at 1:48 pm #1494940
John MyersBPL Member
@dallasLocale: North Texas
Ah, thanks. I always considered the pad part of the sleeping system. Especially since I can't sleep without one. :)Apr 17, 2009 at 1:53 pm #1494941
Jay WilkersonBPL Member
@creachenLocale: East Bay
GG- SpinnTwinn Tarp: 9.2 oz
MLD- Serenity Shelter: 10 oz Total 19.2 oz
MLD- Ark Backpack: 4,200 CI Total 18 oz
Western Mountaineering Bag Total 18 oz
Total 55.2 oz
Prolite 4 3/4 Total 17 oz
This is a lot more stimulating then talking about guns or AIGApr 17, 2009 at 2:06 pm #1494945
Piper S.BPL Member
@sbhikesLocale: Santa Barbara (Name: Diane)
This is not a very scientific weight, but on my bathroom scale, it's 4lbs.
I have (with manufacturer weights):
– Gossamer Gear G4 size sm (16 oz) (mine weighs more because there are some pockets and things added to it)
– Golite ultra 20 quilt (16 oz)
– Z-rest, 12 panels, cut to 19 inches wide with some sticky velcro holding it together where I stupidly cut it in half (weight??)
8×10 tarp (14 oz) plus lines and stakes (weight??)Apr 17, 2009 at 2:17 pm #1494949
@rezniemLocale: San Francisco
BA Aircore 72" — 21oz (no stuffsack)
SMD Gatewood Cape — 1oz (Fuzzy math…Cape 11oz-Raingear 10oz)
REI Flash Women's — 21 oz (+35F)
Jam2 — 17 oz (modified)
Total — Fuzzy Math version: 60 oz (4 lbs 4 oz)
Non-Fuzzy Math version 70 oz (4 lbs 14 oz)Apr 17, 2009 at 2:22 pm #1494952
pack:Six Moon Designs Traveller 26 oz (with stays 31)
tent: GG "the one" 17 oz plus 1 oz polycro grd cloth
bag: Montbell SS#3 23 oz
pad: Thermarest Prolite 4 short 17 oz
total 84oz= 5.25 lbs (add 5 for stays)
have not actually used this yet in the past i used a sd clip flashlight- great for the 90s but heavy by todays standardsApr 17, 2009 at 2:28 pm #1494954
GG Vapor Trail = 30 oz.
TT Rainbow = 34 oz.
Montbell SS #3 Long = 25 oz.
Trimmed Z-lite = 12 oz.
Total = 101 oz. = 6.3 lbs.
Thanks guys for making me feel overweight. Jeez.Apr 17, 2009 at 2:34 pm #1494956
@dangLocale: Pacific Northwet
Pack: ULA Conduit 21 oz
Bag: BPL (Nunatak) Arc X down quilt 16 oz
Pad: Neo Air (R) 14 oz
Shelter: Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo e 23 oz
4 lbs 10 oz
If I include my pillows (these are dedicated sleep system components) it adds 6 oz for a total weight of 5 lbs.Apr 17, 2009 at 2:39 pm #1494957
pack – ULA Circuit 32oz
shelter – MLD duomid 15oz
bag – MB Super Stretch 15 degree bag (long) 39oz
pad – Thermarest ridgerest "deluxe" 18oz
pack – Zpacks zilch with hipbelt 5oz
shelter – solo cat tarp 8oz
bag – Golite ultra 20 quilt 19oz (sometimes swap out for 40 degree synthetic quilt that weighs 14oz)
pad – Gossamer Gear 3/8" ccf pad cut to 2/3-length 4.5oz (sometimes add in an inflatable Torsolite for another 8.7oz)
Total weight of big 4 for set-up 1: 6.5 pounds
Total weight of big 4 for set-up 2: 2.3 pounds
I tend to use set-up 1 exclusively in spring and fall conditions, while I use set up 2 exclusively in the summer. Although the Montbell SS bag is quite a bit heavier than the Utra 20 quilt, it is WAY more comfortable than pretty much any bag I've ever used, so I don't mind a few extra ounces for the stretchability. Ditto for the Duomid. Yeah, it's a bit heavy, but it's a very cozy all-sides-protected shelter. Also, it's worth noting that I almost always use quilts with bivies. Especially in the summer, I tend to want a net-hooded, fully sealable bug bivy, which adds another 5 ounces to my "shelter" weight.Apr 17, 2009 at 2:54 pm #1494961
Zack KarasBPL Member
@iwillchopyouhotmail-comLocale: Lake Tahoe
pack: Golite Jam 16 oz modified
bag: WM Pod 30 17oz
tent: SMD Lunar Solo 24oz
pad: Ridgerest 30" 5.5 oz
total: 62.5oz or 3.9 lbs
pack: Golite 24 19oz modified
bag: Down pants and synthetic jacket 16oz
tent: Bibler Winter Bivy 9oz
pad: GG 1/8" 2oz
total: 46oz or 2.9 lbsApr 17, 2009 at 2:55 pm #1494962
Richard GlessBPL Member
@rglessLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
For my UL "fanatic fringe" summer 2-3 day hikes:
pack – Zpack Zilch – 4 oz
bag – Nunatuk Arc Specialist 19 oz
shelter – Gatewood Cape w pole and stakes 15.5 oz; SMD serenity net 7.5 oz
pad – NeoAir short 9.5 oz
Total – 56 oz – 3 lbs 8 oz or so
This works well for me for the California Sierras with low temperatures down to about 40'F or so.Apr 17, 2009 at 3:05 pm #1494966
Tad EnglundBPL Member
@bestbuilderLocale: Pacific Northwest
Pack: GG "G5", 7.5 oz
Tent: Gatewood Cape W/stakes and lines, 13.6 oz
Bag: WM Megalite, 26 oz
Pad: BA Clearview, 15 oz
Total 62.1oz = 3.88 lbs
Pack: Might use Jam2 add 13.9 oz
Tent: for bugs, GG bug canopy add 3 oz
Pad: for cold weather Theromrest Guide Lite add 19.5 oz
Total 98.4 oz = 6.15 lbApr 17, 2009 at 3:08 pm #1494967
@benwoodLocale: flatlands of MO
pack – GG nimbus latitude – 50 oz.
bag – REI sub kilo – 31 oz.
shelter – tyvek tarp – 15 oz.
pad z lite short – 11 oz.
for a grand total of 107 oz. or 6.68 lbs.
i know the pack is heavy, but i like it way too much.Apr 17, 2009 at 3:20 pm #1494969
MYOG Tarptent-for-2 – 26 oz
Golite Jam2 – 21 oz
NEOair small – 9.1 oz
Golite Ultra20 Quilt 19.3 oz
4lbs 11.2oz, by summer though for solo Hikes I'll have the solo tarp and bivy sewn, along with my golite ion modified to work with all my gear and food. So figure by summer I'll have dropped 20+ oz, my big 3 will weigh about 3lbs 7.4oz or less…
Are you including the weight of your stakes and guylines in your shelter weight? Mine are all included in.Apr 17, 2009 at 3:21 pm #1494970
@mad777Locale: South Florida
Backpack: ULA Amp w/front & hip-belt pockets @ 14.6 oz
Homemade synthetic quilt @ 13.1 oz + 2.5 oz dry bag = 15.6 oz
POE Max Thermo 48"x20" synthetic insulated inflatable pad @ 15.0 oz + Montbell inflatable pillow @ 2.7 oz = 17.7 oz
Tarptent Rainbow w/guy lines @ 32.6 oz + 3.2 oz silnylon ground cloth + 8 stakes & snubber @ 3.8 oz = 39.6 oz
Grand Total 87.5 oz or 5.5 lbs and I'm very happy with my comfort to weight ratio … of course … I could get the small Neoair & save 6 oz … Oh no! Here I go!Apr 17, 2009 at 3:22 pm #1494971
Scott BentzBPL Member
@scottbentzLocale: Southern California
Pack-G Gear Mariposa Plus (older) … 20.0
BMW Torsolite Sleep Pad… 10.0
G Gear 1/8" Thinlight… 2.0
Polycro Groundcloth… .3
G Gear SpinnTwinn… 9.3
Equinox Ultralight Bivy… 6.5
Montbell SS UL #5 Sleeping Bag… 19.0
Total … 67.1 oz. or 4.2 lbs.
The only change I would make is whether or not to use my G Gear The One. If I do I will drop the Spinn Twinn and the bivy. I think that adds about 4 ounces or so.
I am always amazed that even starting with a nice light base weight how much weight can creep up when you add water and food. I can't imagine packing anymore with the weights we used to carry.Apr 17, 2009 at 3:57 pm #1494978
”Are you including the weight of your stakes and guylines in your shelter weight? Mine are all included in.”
No because I figure we all know how much a set of stakes weigh.Apr 17, 2009 at 3:58 pm #1494979
but not everyone uses the same set of stakes or length/amount of guylines, and it is part of your shelter system. which means it should be a part of your carried shelter weight since your carrying them for the shelter and they are not consumable. The big 3 which is supposed to be your entire sleep system weight, entire pack weight, and entire shelter system weight. The +1 isn't really needed either because the sleep system is supposed to include your pad.Apr 17, 2009 at 3:59 pm #1494980
@mn-backpackerLocale: Land of 12,000 Loons
I'm one of the heavier people here. 90% of my backpacking is with my wife, so I don't own a solo shelter, which ends up nailing me for over a pound more than necessary. My pack is a little heavy also, but I love the comfort.
Pack = Vapor Trail = 2 pounds 2 ounces
Tent = Lunar Duo = 2 pounds 13 ounces (including all stakes, etc)
Bag = WM MegaLite = 1 pound 10 ounces
Pad = NeoAir = 14 ounces
Total = 7 pounds 7 ouncesApr 17, 2009 at 4:06 pm #1494981
te – waBPL Member
WARBONNET Blackbird complete: 22.2
MacCat standard, spinnaker: 10.5
down underquilt 35° + leg pad: 14.8
top quilt 35°: 12.6
ULA conduit w/ belt pocket: 18
these weights include ALL stakes, stuff sacks and other components.
i also have a bridge diy hammock that weighs <13oz that sees much use. depends on my mood.
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