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    David Chenault
    BPL Member

    @davec

    Locale: Queen City, MT

    Start will be Blackleaf Canyon TH on the Rocky Mountain Front; specifically, the stock trailhead 500 yards before the car trailhead, due to it having more parking.  I will post the finish in early May.  I’m reserving the start for a number of reasons, adjusting to conditions being one.  That said, the finish I intend to use is 95.29 straightline miles from the start.

    #3729901
    Mike M
    BPL Member

    @mtwarden

    Locale: Montana

    You’re keeping Tom up at night :)

    #3730928
    Scott G
    BPL Member

    @sgrimm

    Very cool. That would put the Finish either somewhere in Northwest Glacier or Downtown Missoula , hmmmm.

    #3731242
    Tom M
    BPL Member

    @twofeathers

    Locale: Kalispell

    I smell some road slogging. :(

    #3731977
    Adam R
    BPL Member

    @adamr

    Longtime lurker, hoping to be a first time BMWO participant. With a distance like that I’m guessing pack rafting is going to be the method of choice this year.

    #3734681
    Tom M
    BPL Member

    @twofeathers

    Locale: Kalispell

    If my finish line guess is correct a raft would not be my accessory of choice.

    #3734793
    Adam R
    BPL Member

    @adamr

    Like Scott, I’m seeing only two likely finishes (unless Dave is messing with us which would be pretty funny): Kettlehouse in Bonner (hoping for a finish during business hours) or Bowman/Kintla Lake area. If that’s the case it seems like it would be advantageous to utilize the Blackfoot or Middle Fork as opposed to what would likely be ~150 miles on a land only route.

    #3735602
    Rob
    BPL Member

    @alpine_sailor

    Locale: Missoula

    What are y’all’s thoughts on ‘packbiking’ (essentially disassembling your bike and hiking it on your back in terrain where biking is either not possible or not legal). The  article below describes the process and loosely explores the legal concerns. I have heard of thru riders doing this for sections of the Arizona Trail that aren’t open to biking. It’s easy to imagine a lot of quality and efficient bikeable miles if the route ends somewhere near Missoula.

    https://www.bikemag.com/inspiration/packing/

    #3735603
    Mike M
    BPL Member

    @mtwarden

    Locale: Montana

    I think we had two folks that were very close to doing exactly that last year, but changed their minds at the last minute

    Dave can pipe in as the final authority, but my understanding if you’re willing to pack (and sometimes ride) the bike the entirety of the trip you’re good- much like having the raft with you the entire trip.

    #3735604
    Tom M
    BPL Member

    @twofeathers

    Locale: Kalispell

    Rob,

    The areas you are referring to on the Arizona trail bikes are “legal” to carry not to ride. Within the Bob Marshall, Scapegoat, and Great Bear it is illegal to ride and or possess a bike period. https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5413632.pdf

    #3735605
    Mike M
    BPL Member

    @mtwarden

    Locale: Montana

    I was always under the impression you could carry, but not ride- good to know!

    #3735622
    Rob
    BPL Member

    @alpine_sailor

    Locale: Missoula

    Thanks for the replys. I understand (and support) the no-bikes-in-wilderness policy. I do wonder though if the author of the bikemag article has a point when he says, ‘if a bicycle is disassembled, is it still a bicycle? Or is it a bunch of bicycle parts?’.  It feels like word play, but legally he might have a point.  For what it’s worth, I don’t think carrying a bike on your back and only riding where it’s legal violates the spirit of the wilderness act, legal or not. I’d be curious to know if there’s smart people out there that have already thought through this.

    Has anyone ever used a mountain bike in a proud style for an Open. It doesn’t really seem possible without the option to packbike.

    #3735635
    Tom M
    BPL Member

    @twofeathers

    Locale: Kalispell

    Mike,

    I also see that cutting switchbacks is also a crime…. Just saying

    #3735636
    Mike M
    BPL Member

    @mtwarden

    Locale: Montana

    Mike,

    I also see that cutting switchbacks is also a crime…. Just saying

    well there was that one time I slid and tumbled down a couple hundred feet a$$ over teakettle, so at least I had an excuse :)

    #3735734
    Rob
    BPL Member

    @alpine_sailor

    Locale: Missoula

    Bonner seems too random to be the ending, although the weigh station boat ramp is the correct distance. It would require a terrible highway hike in the canyon for people without rafts. It also seems like the fastest route to Bonner would be too similar to last year’s route, which was a long float on the mainstem of the Blackfoot.

    #3735735
    Adam R
    BPL Member

    @adamr

    That was my thought as well about a Bonner area finish. A route that has the option of going through GNP would certainly be attractive, but would be logistically…interesting

    #3735745
    Mike M
    BPL Member

    @mtwarden

    Locale: Montana

    I’ve been wrong before………… but I took Dave’s 95.29 miles tongue in cheek; but as I said I’ve been wrong before :)

    #3736083
    David Chenault
    BPL Member

    @davec

    Locale: Queen City, MT

    So many possibilities.

    #3736180
    Adam R
    BPL Member

    @adamr

    Just realized the Rattlesnake TH is also 95 miles from the start…. Not gonna lie, I love speculating about all the possibilities!

    #3736181
    Tom M
    BPL Member

    @twofeathers

    Locale: Kalispell

    Public House café is also within the range. Long float trip.. :)

    #3736183
    Evan M
    BPL Member

    @ezm5317

    +1 for Rattlesnake

    #3737002
    MMC
    BPL Member

    @mmc

    For anyone wishing to have a little fun speculating on the end point for the 2022 Bob Open, I started a new discussion.  Link is below:

    https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/the-gamble-before-the-ramble/

    #3737057
    Will B
    BPL Member

    @elephanthead

    I’ll take the dumb money on a finish somewhere between Ruple Meadow and Antice Knob in the Flathead even though it looks horrific for non-boaters. Rattlesnake would be quite similar to last year’s start and endpoints, floating the whole middle fork from strawberry to confluence would be really cool, and I think Dave likes to punish the packraftless.

    #3737100
    Rob
    BPL Member

    @alpine_sailor

    Locale: Missoula

    The Flathead/GNP probably is the dumb money but I think that would be my preference. A Rattlesnake finish would be really cool, but, as you say, it’s quite similar to last year

    #3737109
    Adam R
    BPL Member

    @adamr

    Parallel line but I would think unlikely to cover the same trails. Except for those pesky packrafters… 😄

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