Backpacker.com Ultralight Handbook…

I sense a bit of sarcasm. On a related note, they also recommended not carrying water (and food, I believe) the beginning section of the JMT because you could pick up your pack later.

Sorry, but one twisted ankle will make you wanting food and water – even on a higher-heavy trail like the JMT.

Any note of who wrote that for them or was it from the editors of? I am sure NO ONE wants to take credit for it. What is the print version of an Allen Smithee?

Alot of it is pretty crappy advice.

I have to agree. I had ordered this book a few years ago thinking i could get a few new ideas to lighten my load. I didn't think much of the book…felt i wasted my money..

Am I the only person who hates the term "fastpacker"?

On a larger rant, I despise BACKPACKER mag's categories for ultralight gear – especially packs. UL packs to me are generally frameless and do not weigh what the top UL packs the mag's guide said. I don't have my guide on me right now, but can anyone post the weight/volume of the three UL packs the mag selected?

Last time I check, my Z1 from Zpacks weighs in at 5.29 ounces with options – less without.

Along the same lines, the idea that you need a larger pack the longer you are out is more or less a fallacy as we here know. You need more space for consumables, mostly food, but the rest of your kit should remain more or less the same. You don't need to double your pack volume to get there. Bah!

Same rant for tents, although I did like to see the nod to the TT Contrail and DR. On the DR note, the snippet made it sound like the tent was brand new when it has been out since 2006 or so.

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I have been called a fastpacker by folks who see me on the trail. These folks are generally burgeoned with huge loads and are plodding along slowly. I walk at a very brisk pace, but I also am carrying a UL load. I think my running background pushes that pace up. It probably doesn't help the image that all UL folks are those who just run up and down trails for the pure sake of logging miles.

That said, Brian Frankle's rant about "fast and Light" is fantastic – basically it is light and efficient that should matter and not fast and light. Unfortunately, the manufacturers use this nomenclature and that drives the term. See TNF Summit Series, ID's fast and light section and anything geared toward climbers, such as BD's series of packs that allow you to strip off the hipbelt, stays and/or lids.

GoLite's website calls Skurka fastpacker – whether you agree with that is up to debate.

Me thinks that a letter to the mag is in order.

Call me a fastpacker…UL backpacker…thru-hiker…fast and light…traditional backpacker…heavyweight hiker…mountain walker…outdoor enthusiast…a lover…a fighter…a wild bull rider…

Call me stupid.

Whatever the name, what does it matter?

The mind likes to compartmentalize things and has a hard time without. Imagine a world without pronouns, or any time you look at a person and cannot determine if they are a man or a woman. Your brain goes berserk.

That said, these labels are only necessary for the person attempting to place the label. To the hiker being labeled, it doesn't mean squat.

I hope that without names I'd still recognize men from women :)

"To the hiker being labeled, it doesn't mean squat."

My point exactly. Call me what you want.

So if "fastpacker" is a dumb name, then what?
Speedywalker? Naah…that's dumb too.
Quicktrekker? Too sci-fi.
Fastambler? Sounds like a late 50's sedan….

wait….how about quickshuffler?

Fastpacker is absolutely true. I used to fiddle around for two hours after getting up before hitting the trail. I got up, put on warm clothes, made breakfast, packed sleeping gear, packed tent, packed the rest of the c6ap, changed clothes, took a rest, etc.

Packing lighter, with much less extra stuff, no complicated tent, better packing routine, etc. is much faster. Now I wake up dressed in clothes appropriate to start the day's hike. Get up, pack sleeping gear, other gear (very little), stuff bivy in the outside of my pack, hit the trail. Wakeup to hiking is 15 minutes or less. Then when the day has warmed up I take a nice breakfast break.

Anyhow, I went from 2 hours packing to 15 minutes so that's "Fastpacking". I may walk slightly quicker as well.

This pdf is a bit of a rehash from a print article they did awhile back. I remember the related forum thread being just as scathing as this one.

An ultralight handbook coming from a magazine that reviewed a computer printer in their Gear Guide is… well, I'll leave that judgement up to the individual.

Excuse me, I'm going to go fastpacking now.

Backpacking Light has used the term 'fastpacker' and 'fastpacking' in several members only articals over the last six months. For those of you that think those terms are used by only the uneducated that don't understand backpacking or lightweight backpacking. . .you may be correct.

The Backpacker 2009 Gear Guide is really unsettling. "Best Ultralight Tent" at 3lbs 14oz. Ultralight backpack at 3lbs. They really don't have a clue. Some of their backbacks come in at nearly 8 lbs!!!!

I know that their staff has access to some of the best Ultralight hikers around. I guess that they have just gotten too cozy with traditional gear manufacturers and cannot see beyond who buys advertising in their magazine.

How great is the connection between the magazine and the manufacturers?
Seems to me they are in cahoots on everything…it's all about synergy. Give high reviews to the products that also happen to come from the manufacturers that fill your pockets with advertising dollars.
It's just bizarre when I see some of this stuff…
I was on REI's website and saw the "new, Backpacking Mag. award winning" REI bags…2 lbs for a 25 degree bag.
I boubt a 2 lb., 20 degree pertex micrrolite bag from EMS years ago for $169. So why did REI win the award?
You have to wonder if some of these magazines are owned by the companies….
I guess that, in a sense, they are.

This happens everywhere to some degree.
While I think the reviews here are pretty objective, many of the articles definitely send people running for the BPL gear store. I don't doubt that this is part of BPL's overall revenue plans; nothing wrong with it, it's a business.
But I do really respect the fact that this site doesn't take advertising money…that's where reviews and content start getting really bogus

Someone should tell them that ultra-lighters all hike barefoot to save weight on shoes.

And Super-Ultra-Lighters don't take clothes either – so heavy …

Cheers

Oh Roger, you really dont want to come across me walking naked on the trail to save a few kgs :) I'll leave my clothes on for the good of mankind (and womenkind for that matter)

This game of terminology reminds me of that famous scene where Mickey Mouse the Wizard shrinks furniture and other objects so that they all fit in his suitcase. Seems like this is the fantasy of the major retailers and manufacturers- no matter how many items we urge consumers to carry, as long as we label those items as lightweight, they will always fit easily in the pack and their individual weights will never collectively amount to anything. Linguist and philosopher J.L Austin would call this a "performative utterance." Such utterances are not just statements but also actions: one example is "I name this ship the Queen Elizabeth."

The problem is, of course, that this performative utterance doesn't shape, or even accurately describe, the reality it addresses. Saying it doesn't make it so. REI and companies like it want hikers to think light but buy heavy in the hopes that all those gadgets and gizmos will magically shrink in size as they are dancing through the air and into your pack.

I don't confuse UL with US (ultasmall). I still carry a Gust, and I frankly don't care if a UL item is smaller or not. I go purely by weight, and as long as my pack stays light enough for me to be comfortable, I am happy with my purchases and MYOG items.

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I just think we need more clarification on the terms.

Some of us are fastpackers while others are lightweightfastpackers. Others are ultralightfastpackers while some are simply ultralightslowpackers. But what about the supertraditionalfastpackers? THOSE guys are really hard core.

But I'm the only one that's a SuperUltraLightSuperUltraFastPacker. No one else can add the double Supers; I have a copyright on that term.

Seriously, it is funny. Fastpacker is a term that I've never heard used by an ultralight backpacker and it's hardly ever used on this site. Strikes me as something invented by Outside Magazine.

I HAVE noticed that since I've gone lightweight, it takes me less time to pack up in the morning. Maybe this is the best use of the term "fastpacker"?