Yet another stake (not steak) thread

James, I said "comparably weighted". The fair comparison would be between MINI Groundhog and Toaks Ti V or Vargo Ti Crevice, which are all of similar weight and price. The regular groundhog would have to be compared to a 20g Ti stake (though I suspect that would be significantly more expensive if it exists). I guess my argument is against the Mini GH specifically, since it reduces weight and increases price to that of the not-the-lightest Ti V's, which I can only imagine are better.

In any case, I put my order in for a mix of Ti V and wire stakes. So thanks all for for the tips, including the spork apologist!

+1 for Ground Hogs, the big ones, not the minis. I've found them quite durable.

I also like the long Ti shepherd hooks and the ability to sneak them into cracks and crannies.

Good to have a mix sometimes.

"The 3 "vanes" on the stakes are now curved for better retention in "iffy" ground."

@ Eric B:

Just another fad.
I have not seen a single shred of evidence that the curved-vane Cyclone stakes provide a better retention.

You?

You have a link to that research don't you Eric? Change for change's sake. Gotta stay fresh and exciting to sell.

I have the old style big ones, and a set of minis. I prefer the originals – a lot more staying power.

Some of my groundhogs have a nice gentle bend to them. They work just the same, surviving many hammerings with granite and many encounters with buried rocks or roots.

Respect to those who've broke one! I've not known a peg so capable of taking abuse. I bought some clones for the family tent & bent some of them but never the real thing