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Introduction
In the ultralight backpacking subculture, where tenths of ounces are counted and minimalism is a moral virtue, few pieces of gear are met with more suspicion than the chair. Dismissed by purists as a luxury item and often omitted from base weight disclosures, seating systems occupy a strange place in the backcountry toolkit: desired, but decried and denied. But what if the value of a chair could be quantified not in comfort or luxury, but in more concrete performance outcomes? What if carrying a chair wasn’t indulgent, but strategic?
This article approaches seating not as optional comfort gear, but as part of a recovery system – a tool with legitimate physiological, neurological, thermoregulatory, and psychological impacts. Drawing on field observations, recovery science, and performance-based frameworks, we evaluate whether a seating system can justify its weight in the most demanding ultralight contexts. As the backpacking chair market has matured, the range of available solutions has expanded, from minimalist sit pads to full-frame ultralight chairs. And with that expansion comes a new imperative: make seating decisions as rigorously as we select shelter fabric, footwear, or sleep insulation.
What’s in this Report:
This guide frames backpacking chairs as rest and recovery tools. It includes:
- A science-based approach to using seating as a physiological and cognitive recovery activity;
- Historical and technical analysis of ultralight seating design;
- Breakdown of biomechanical and environmental performance domains;
- Market segmentation by product function and use case;
- Comparative performance data across seven seating categories;
- Commentary on tradeoffs, recommendations, and representative models.

Updates & Corrections Log
- June 2025 – Lightweight Chairs for Backpacking (2019) and A Place to Sit (2025) were decommissioned and redirected to this new Market Report, which combines the key elements of the aforementioned articles, with expanded sections about the science of recovery, category expansion, and the state of the current backpacking chair market.
- May 2025 – The Introduction of A Place to Sit was expanded to include a case for chairs anchored to biomechanical and metabolic recovery science. Expanded a use case for folding chairs in sand, snow, tundra, and in-tent seating.
- August 2024 – A Place to Sit was expanded to represent additional backpacking chair categories. Specs were updated for all products. Additional context was provided to broaden the discussion of the market category.
- May 2024 – A Place to Sit was published as a commentary by Ryan Jordan on the evolution of modern backpacking chairs.
- June 2019 – Lightweight Chairs for Backpacking was initially published as a gear guide by Doug Johnson, Andrew Marshall, and Ryan Jordan.
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Table 1. Environmental Risk Conditions Where Ground Sitting Undermines Recovery
Ground sitting is often treated as the de facto choice for ultralight backpackers who don't want to carry a chair. But under certain environmental conditions, this default strategy may carry disproportionate penalties, including conductive heat loss, posture-related fatigue, and compromised biomechanical recovery. This table identifies scenarios where unsupported sitting compromises recovery, and where structured seating systems can offer performance advantages that could be significant enough to merit their carried weight.| Field Condition | Ground Sitting Risk | Structured Seating Advantage |
|---|---|---|
| Wet or saturated terrain | Insulation saturation | Prevents direct ground contact |
| Cold ambient temperatures | Core temp loss due to conduction / ground contact | Reduces thermal penalty |
| Uneven or rocky surfaces | Joint compression, poor spinal posture | Load redistribution, increased comfort |
| Long-duration travel days | Cumulative fatigue, poor posture | Spinal relief, improved recovery |
| Group communications, institutional instruction | Standing fatigue, communication strain | Postural rest, group cohesion |
Products Featured in this Market Report
A backpacking chair can relieve muscular fatigue, facilitate physiological and cognitive recovery, and improve social engagement - but ultralight ethos demands light weight, sound design, and the right match to your use case objectives.
Framed Sling Chairs
- Grand Trunk Monarch All-Terrain Legless Chair
- Helinox Chair Zero
- Helinox Ground Chair
- Nemo Moonlite
- Nemo Moonlite Elite
- REI Flexlite Air Chair
Frameless Sling Chairs
Sit Pads
- Exped Sit Pad Flex
- Garage Grown Gear sit pad
- Klymit V-Seat
- Nemo Chipper Pad
- Therm-a-Rest Lite Seat
- Therm-a-Rest Z-Seat
Hybrid Seats (Pads with Backrest Support)
Stool-Style Chairs
Pad-to-Chair Conversion Kits
Suspended Seats
Other Products

Table of Contents • Note: if this is a members-only article, some sections may only be available to Premium or Unlimited Members.
- Introduction
- Table 1. Environmental Risk Conditions Where Ground Sitting Undermines Recovery
- Products Featured in this Market Report
- Context: From Luxury to Strategic Tool
- The Science of Seated Recovery
- Table 2. Recovery Benefit Matrix
- Market Analysis: Backpacking Chairs
- Category Analyses: Backpacking Chairs
- Framed Sling Chairs (Full Back Support)
- Frameless Sling Chairs (Partial or Dependent Back Support)
- Sit Pads (Inflatable or Closed Cell Foam)
- Hybrid Seats (Pads with Backrest Support)
- Stool-Style Chairs
- Pad-to-Chair Conversion Kits
- Suspended Seats
- Non-Traditional/Improvised Systems
- Backpacking Chairs Category Comparison
- Table 3. Comparison of Ultralight Seating Categories by Performance Domain and Context.
- What the Author Uses
- Conclusion: Rethinking the Chair
- Related Content
Context: From Luxury to Strategic Tool
For years, I viewed sitting in the backcountry as a comfort-based indulgence – something to weigh carefully against my base pack weight, rather than a decision grounded in performance or recovery outcomes. But as I’ve aged, gained more experience, and refined my framework for evaluating the total cost of backcountry effort, my perspective has shifted.
Today, I see seated rest not simply as comfort, but as a biomechanical and physiological recovery tool – a way to actively influence fatigue reduction, movement economy, and next-day hiking performance. In the context of long, weight-bearing days on foot, the idea that “sitting is the new smoking” falls apart quickly. For sedentary office workers, excessive sitting may indeed be a health liability. But for a backpacker who’s been walking several miles for several hours with a pack on their back, sitting isn’t a threat – it’s a prescription for recovery.
This report outlines my evolving thinking around seating in the backcountry. While the product recommendations are here, the deeper value is in reframing why sitting matters and how we think about it. Chairs, stools, and pads may not just be optional luxuries. In some contexts (particularly in cold weather, high-mileage trips, or for aging or injury-prone hikers), they function as strategic recovery systems that enhance long-term comfort and performance.
What follows is my current approach to evaluating seating options through the lens of biomechanics, recovery science, and real-world use cases. This includes determining which seating solution is appropriate for different types of trips. A good chair may not shave weight off your pack, but it may reduce the metabolic cost of your next climb. Across more than forty years of backpacking, I’ve learned that the trade-off is often worth it.

The Science of Seated Recovery
With this context in mind, we begin by examining the science of seated recovery, focusing on the physiological and psychological systems impacted by structured rest in the backcountry.
Efficient recovery is essential for sustaining backcountry performance on multi-day treks. While backpacking – where caloric deficits, neuromuscular fatigue, and environmental exposure are persistent variables – small interventions that reduce physiological and cognitive strain can yield disproportionately positive performance returns. Seating systems, defined here as equipment intentionally carried to support the body in a seated position, offer multi-domain recovery functions that may justify their inclusion in specific situations.
This section outlines the four principal domains influenced by structured seated rest: biomechanical unloading, neurophysiological regulation, thermoregulatory buffering, and psychosocial/cognitive restoration.
Biomechanical Unloading and Musculoskeletal Recovery
Recovery begins the moment you stop hiking for the day – not solely through sleep or nutrition, but also via postural unloading and neuromuscular reset. When seated in a biomechanically efficient position (characterized by neutral spinal alignment, passive support of the core, and open hip angles), muscle activity in the lumbar and thoracic regions decreases, reducing strain and facilitating relaxation of the postural stabilizers (Makhsous et al., 2009; Claus et al., 2016).
Structured seating systems:
- offload axial load through ischial weight-bearing;
- restore pelvic neutrality and thoracic alignment; and
- reduce static muscular activation, particularly in the erector spinae, trapezius, and iliopsoas complexes.
Proper seating also encourages venous return from the lower limbs, which is compromised during prolonged ground sitting or compressed postures that impede blood flow through the femoral and popliteal regions. Elevating the legs or maintaining an open hip-knee angle during seated recovery improves lower-limb circulation and reduces blood pooling, which may help mitigate next-morning leg stiffness (Antle et al., 2017; Delis et al., 2013).
These effects enable postural reset, improve recovery quality, and support more efficient movement upon resumption of load carriage after an extended rest.
Terminology
- Axial Loading. Compression or force transmitted along the axis of a structure – in human biomechanics, it refers to force applied along the spine (e.g., carrying a backpack), loading vertebrae vertically.
- Ischial Weight-Bearing. A seated posture where body weight is supported primarily on the ischial tuberosities (sitting bones), minimizing pressure on the sacrum, thighs, or lumbar spine.
- Pelvic Neutrality. A pelvic position where the anterior superior iliac spine (ASIS) and pubic symphysis are in vertical alignment, neither tilting anteriorly nor posteriorly – promoting balanced spinal curvature and core stability.
- Thoracic Alignment. The orientation of the thoracic spine (mid-back region); ideal alignment maintains a natural kyphotic curve without excessive rounding or flattening, crucial for postural integrity and respiratory function.
- Static Muscular Activation. Sustained muscle contraction without visible movement of the joint – used to maintain posture or stabilize the body (e.g., holding a plank position engages core muscles statically).
- Erector Spinae. A group of deep back muscles running parallel to the spine (iliocostalis, longissimus, spinalis) responsible for spinal extension, lateral flexion, and maintaining upright posture.
- Trapezius. A large, triangular muscle extending from the occipital bone and spine to the scapula and clavicle. It stabilizes and moves the scapula and supports head and neck posture.
- Iliopsoas Complexes. A major hip flexor group comprising the psoas major and iliacus muscles. These muscles originate from the lumbar spine and pelvis and insert into the femur, playing a key role in walking, posture, and core stability.
- Venous Return. The process by which deoxygenated blood is transported back to the heart via the venous system – influenced by skeletal muscle contraction, respiration, and venous valves that prevent backflow.
- Popliteal Regions. Anatomical areas located behind the knees – specifically, the shallow depression bordered by muscles and tendons where important nerves and blood vessels (e.g., popliteal artery and vein) pass through.
- Diaphragmatic Breathing. A deep, controlled breathing technique where the diaphragm (a dome-shaped muscle beneath the lungs) contracts downward, expanding the lungs and encouraging full oxygen exchange – often associated with relaxation and parasympathetic nervous system activation.
- Somatic Stillness. A state of physical and internal bodily calm characterized by minimal voluntary and involuntary movement – often cultivated through mindfulness or body-awareness practices to reduce stress and enhance proprioceptive and interoceptive awareness.
Neurological Recovery and Autonomic Regulation
Physical rest alone does not equate to recovery. Effective restoration requires modulation of the autonomic nervous system (ANS), specifically a shift from sympathetic (fight-or-flight) dominance to parasympathetic (rest-digest) activation.
Structured seating facilitates this shift by:
- enabling diaphragmatic breathing through improved spinal alignment;
- reducing postural effort, encouraging somatic stillness; and
- creating environmental and postural signals of safety and rest (from polyvagal theory, Porgas et al., 2002).
These conditions support cortisol downregulation, HRV (heart rate variability) recovery, and cognitive decompression (Dupuy et al., 2018; Greenwood et al., 1990).
Passive seated rest has been shown to be as effective as low-intensity active recovery for lactate removal in certain conditions, provided that muscular contraction is minimized and circulation remains unobstructed. The popular phrase “sitting is the new smoking” primarily applies to sedentary populations in low-activity environments. In the context of high daily energy expenditure from hiking, comfortable sitting is not inherently harmful; in fact, it may actually be necessary. It represents a physiologically valid and potentially performance-enhancing method of recovery, especially when posture supports the body’s mechanical and circulatory systems (Thosar et al., 2022). This is even more critical in cold, high-output, or mentally demanding backcountry scenarios.
Conversely, when seated posture is poor (e.g., slouched against a rock, hunched forward with unsupported hips, legs compressed at odd angles), muscle groups that should be relaxing remain partially activated. This prolongs low-grade isometric contraction in the lower back and core, compromises circulation, and contributes to overnight stiffness, joint discomfort, and a loss of stride efficiency the next morning. What if poor evening posture increases the metabolic cost of the first few miles of your next hiking day, when the body is stiff and cold and adapting to motion again?
Table 2. Recovery Benefit Matrix
This table synthesizes recovery-related performance outcomes across three postural strategies commonly employed in the backcountry: standing, ground sitting, and structured seating. It evaluates each strategy based on musculoskeletal relief, postural efficiency, thermoregulatory impact, and psychosocial/cognitive benefits. Structured seating systems may result in superior outcomes across multiple domains, particularly in autonomic recovery, decision-making, and group cohesion, offering an evidence-informed rationale for their inclusion as essential gear for backcountry wilderness travel. Key: ✓ = moderate benefit, ✓✓ = enhanced benefit, x = limited or negative impact.| Recovery Domain | Standing | Ground Sitting | Structured Seating |
|---|---|---|---|
| Musculoskeletal Unloading | x | x | ✓ |
| Postural Neutrality | x | x | ✓ |
| Thermoregulation (conductive) | ✓ | x | ✓ |
| Parasympathetic Activation | x | ✓ | ✓✓ |
| Cognitive Recovery / Decision Quality | x | ✓ | ✓✓ |
| Social Cohesion / Group Inclusion | x | ✓ | ✓✓ |
Thermoregulatory and Environmental Buffering
In environments where the terrain is wet, uneven, or cold, ground contact increases conductive heat loss and raises the risk of insulation damage (moisture accumulation or shear damage during seated movement). The thermodynamic penalty of ground sitting (especially with no insulating barrier) is rarely accounted for in traditional gear planning (e.g., Gavin, 2003).
Seating systems offer:
- elevated or insulated separation from wet/cold substrates;
- preservation of dry insulation zones in pants or sleeping pads; and
- reduced skin/subcutaneous tissue shear or pressure exposure on uneven ground.
Off-ground (including ground-insulated) seating can help mitigate heat loss, reduce hypothermia risk, and improve the metabolic efficiency of recovery. These effects will be magnified in cold environments (e.g., alpine), wet ground environments (e.g., coastal), or when the ground is covered in snow (Kenney et al., 2012).

Psychosocial and cognitive performance are central components of decision-making, group cohesion, and morale in backcountry settings. As with thermoregulation and posture, recovery in this domain may benefit from structured, supportive seated rest. Compromised psychosocial and cognitive performance are downstream effects of physical fatigue.
Decision Fatigue and Cognitive Load
Cognitive fatigue is a well-documented phenomenon in high-demand environments. Extended physical exertion, environmental stress, and nutritional deficits impair executive function, increasing the likelihood of errors in navigation, risk assessment, and group leadership (Hagger et al., 2010; van der Linden et al., 2003). Structured rest (particularly in a seated position that promotes spinal neutrality and stillness) appears to facilitate neurological downregulation and cognitive reset.
In field environments, structured seating:
- promotes intentional recovery rather than passive cognitive fatigue accumulation;
- facilitates stillness and clarity useful for studying maps, and journaling; and
- reduces postural discomfort, allowing the central nervous system to allocate attention to higher-order tasks.
Qualitative observations from my more than three decades of guiding group expeditions suggest that users who consistently employ seating systems in the evening are more engaged in problem-solving exercises (e.g., route planning, daily debriefing) and task efficiency (e.g., dinner preparation and cleanup) compared to those who remain standing or sit on the ground without support.
Group Cohesion, Social Inclusion, and Instructional Efficacy
In group-based travel or educational programming, seating systems influence social equity and instructional clarity. A standing participant (or instructor) talking down to seated participants creates a physical power differential that can compromise communication if not effectively managed by a skilled leader (Forsyth, 2018). Likewise, participants without a seating system may remain on their feet or squat uncomfortably during rest periods, and may exclude themselves from informal group interaction or structured discussion (Beard & Wilson, 2006; Gass et al., 2012).
Structured seating enhances:
- group cohesion by aligning posture and eye-line among participants;
- social inclusion by enabling all members to comfortably engage during communal activities; and
- instructional delivery, especially in outdoor education, where seated posture enables more effective teaching, listening, and interpersonal exchange.
In our guided course environments, our instructors almost universally report that participants are more attentive, retain more information, and are more willing to engage in group reflection when all individuals are seated comfortably (especially in configurations like horseshoes or circles where we can all see each other’s faces).
Psychological Comfort and Morale
Finally, comfort has real value, not as luxury, but as a morale-preserving input. When adversity accumulates (e.g., cold, wet, fatigue, hunger), even small physical reprieves can reduce irritability, pessimism, and conflict (Baumeister et al., 2007). A reliable seating system (especially when dry, warm, and structurally supportive) becomes a psychological refuge, promoting emotional resilience and continuity of motivation (Seligman, 2011).
Summary: The Science of Seated Recovery
Structured seating systems influence recovery across four primary performance domains:
- Biomechanical – Offloading and alignment reduce physical fatigue.
- Neurophysiological – Seated posture promotes parasympathetic dominance.
- Thermoregulatory – Elevation and insulation improve energy efficiency.
- Psychosocial/Cognitive – Comfort improves decision quality, group cohesion, and morale.
These effects are not universal; they are context-dependent and should be weighed alongside total carried weight, environmental conditions, and personal recovery needs. However, for users engaged in extended multi-day treks, group leadership, instructional programming, or cold/wet environments, the performance impact of seating systems may justify their weight in ways more profound than comfort alone would suggest.

Next, we turn from physiology to practicality and evaluate the current state of the ultralight seating market across design categories and functional tradeoffs.
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Market Analysis: Backpacking Chairs
This section reviews the ultralight seating market, focusing on weight-to-benefit tradeoffs, user intent, and biomechanical relevance. Rather than ranking products or brands, we explore the driving forces behind chair innovation and usage in the field, and prepare the reader for the detailed taxonomy and category analysis that follows.
The Evolution of Ultralight Seating Systems
The evolution of ultralight seating systems reflects the tension between reducing pack weight and preserving physiological function. Historically, backcountry seating amounted to logs, rocks, or bare ground. As lightweight hiking culture matured, minimalist solutions like closed-cell foam pads (e.g., accordion-fold designs like the Therm-a-Rest Z-Seat) became widely adopted – not necessarily for seated comfort, but for their multifunctional utility and negligible weight.
However, these minimal systems failed to address key recovery needs: spinal unloading and circulatory optimization. However, I’m not convinced that the market for chairs evolved in response to mounting evidence from recovery physiology. Instead, I believe that the reduction of overall pack weight through design innovations in other gear (e.g., reductions in the weight of tents, packs, stoves, etc.) made room for the chair – and for the market to develop lightweight chairs. In sync with this development, MYOG and cottage makers first drove repurposed gear hacks (e.g., pads folded into backpack back supports). Later, various types of chairs joined the product lines of major outdoor brands including REI, Helinox, Big Agnes, Nemo, Cascade Designs, and others.
As designers began producing lightweight framed chairs, frameless sling systems, and pad-to-chair converters targeting sub-1 pound (0.5 kg) weight thresholds, consumers took notice. Without adding much pack weight, the size of the consumer market expanded. Even though the mass market for these products doesn’t resonate with the idea that they “improve physiological or cognitive recovery and performance” (they just want to enjoy the activity of sitting more comfortably in the backcountry), we hypothesize that the best possible chair for backpackers is the one that is engineered to optimize rest, reduce injury risk, and extend capacity for high-mileage travel.
The result is a diverse market landscape: ultralight chairs are now available in every form factor from 1-ounce (28 g) sit pads to full-featured framed slings under 20 ounces (570 g). This expansion has created new options – and new decisions – for hikers aiming to balance grams with gains in recovery and function.

Functional Demands Driving Design
Modern backcountry seating products are defined not only by their materials, but by the functional demands of a diverse user base. These demands shape the physical form of the gear itself – from how it deploys and supports the body to how it integrates with other components of a hiker’s gear kit. Understanding these drivers is key to evaluating product tradeoffs.
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I didn’t check all the sources listing but the science here is pretty questionable with small studies in disanalogous scenarios (standing vs sitting in occupational low back pain for example) and not the gold standard of large randomized control trials. It should be noted that much of the world doesn’t sit in chairs. This is very much a cultural activity. It might be argued that westerners bodies are adapted to chairs and it has some benefit in that environment but that’s an assumption. I work in healthcare I’m not aware of any scenario in which providers or physical therapists have recommended chairs over some other alternative. I could imagine various alternatives like lying down, ultralight hammocks, sitting on the ground, sitting on your side etc. I’m cool with people liking and wanting to bring chairs and finding benefits from them, but the arguments made here from the medical side are more speculative than something firm.
I suggest that elevated seating may offer specific utility in mitigating spinal and muscular fatigue compared to unsupported or constrained postures on the ground (excluding lying down).
By promoting more neutral alignment and reducing muscular demand, such seating may aid recovery, particularly in fatigued hikers. Sustained isometric postures – like unsupported ground sitting – can contribute to localized stiffness and fatigue, which may delay movement readiness. While research on backcountry seating is limited, literature from occupational and exercise science indicates that posture and support affect muscle recovery and comfort. These insights support the idea that elevated, supported seating can be a useful recovery tool in certain backpacking contexts.
The context I’m presenting here is limited to using brief periods of seated recovery in a hiking context, and what we can do to maximize offloading when lying down isn’t a practical option.
I’m a little surprised to see the critique of the effort to quantify the usefulness of a lightweight chair. While I don’t know that the effort is successful, but I really appreciate the effort. Even more than the studies, I appreciate Ryan’s effort to articulate in his commentary things that I’ve thought about previously but have never made the congestive effort to articulate for myself. This has mad it easier to think through the tradeoffs between comfort and weight on any given trip. One thing that I LOVE about hiking anywhere is being able to just sit and look and think and do cognitive work that is difficult in the everyday world. If I don’t have a chair, I find that time is invariably cut short because of discomfort. But if I have a chair, I can sit as long as I need. While I don’t use the word “meditate” because I don’t have a method to this thinking that I like to do in the wilderness, it is, for all intents meditation. I appreciate Ryan’s unpacking of these sedentary mental activities and their benefits to the physical activities preceding and following.
I don’t need quantitative studies performed over thousands of hours over random individuals to tell me that sitting on the ground or a rock or a fallen tree trunk after eight hours of backpacking isn’t restful. It’s not. And so I’ve taken to stretching out flat in my tent and reading just after a hard hike. BUT: I need to be up and about and taking in the views well into the star studded night. I can’t be trapped in my tent.
Allowing my muscles and spine and posture to relax is truly important. Recovery from a strenuous hike that involves various postures: sitting, standing, sleeping–are all crucial.
I think Ryan is onto something important.
“it must be noted that much of the world doesn’t sit on chairs…” Really? Most of the the world sits on the ground? Hmm, I doubt that.
Thanks for the writeup Ryan!
“it must be noted that much of the world doesn’t sit on chairs…”
I say.. If you like sitting on a chair, then bring a chair! If you like sitting on the ground, then sit on the ground. But don’t let your ego sit on a chair while you miserably sit in the dirt…
Every piece of gear needs to earn its way into your backpack because of multiple practical uses. The Helinox Ground Chair has done so by doing 3 jobs I use every time I’m on the trail. 1) It’s a very solid chair. 2) Its a great tray to easily pile up dinner and move to a better vista of that nights stream, river, lake, ledge, etc. 3) Its a tent chair, here’s the instructions (setup the chair, tip it over backwards so the chair back is now laying on the ground, sit on the ground on the chair back, slide backward putting your back against the chair bottom which is now vertical up in the air). This bit of chair jujitsu allows you to sit comfortably in a low built tent to read at night or survive a day of thunder storms. These 3-in-1 practical uses make the case by themselves, leaving therorised performance gains a bonus.
So that’s why I keep falling to the side when I get up from my REI Flexlite Air. I’m not going to replace it, since I know I can take a nap after lunch in it.
The other benefit worth consideration is cleanliness. Sitting on a beach/rock/fallen tree even with a sit pad usually ends up with getting mud or charcoal on clothes, sand in zippers etc. Fine stuff like Central Australian sand is very difficult to get out even with machine washing, and can’t be good for your Gore-Tex etc. This is a Mountain Designs (cut-price Helinox clone) about 800gm, Yulara campground, Northern Territory. You can sit in luxury for breakfast (muffin and tea) without getting sand on your cup/Thermos lid, gets you out of the cold tent into the scenic sunrise, more comfy than eating lying down. Any crumbs fall on the sand so no ants attracted into the tent!
Dirt on the chair legs stays in the chair bag till you get home, dirt on your pants ends up on your sleeping bag, in the tent etc. That kills your fabrics/zips quicker. I won’t bother with a chair if I know there’s a tent platform (ergonomic enough without a seat back) for a comfy enough spot on a sit pad.
Moving the chair to follow the sun is also great if you have finished walking and just want to sit and read the Kobo, but the tent platforms are often shaded because they place them off the ridge line.

Ryan
Thanks for mentioning the DCF ground sheets for the major four legged chairs on the market. I broke a Chair Zero several years ago when I set it up on soft soil and the legs sunk into the ground, cracking a hub apart. There are other options to solve the problem like tennis balls or larger 3d printed feet but the DCF ground sheet is very weight competitive and I just ordered one after learning about it in your article.
I’m too lazy to read the article, sorry. But I am not willing to carry any extra weight, and a chair will be extra until my body is no longer capable of sitting on the ground. I try to sit on the floor a lot, with the dog, just to read, or in yoga. The more time I spend on the ground or the floor, the easier backpacking is because my hips are looser, and my lower back less uncomfortable without support. Just as I try to train for hiking, I try to train for sitting comfortably without a chair. Training works! (barring disability anyway)
I do CrossFit 2x a week and go rock climbing 1x a week at the gym. At age 54, sitting in a chair is 100x better than sitting on the ground for all the reasons Ryan Jordan cited.
I have been thinking about AK’s suggestion above that one can train for sitting on the ground, my own recent experiences, and the article presented above. I suggest there is space for all of those to coexist.
I believe AK is correct. My own experiences what she has said about becoming comfortable on the ground. I started practicing yoga casually a year ago and that has changed the ways I sit, lay, and touch the ground. In February I moved to a new place which has lovely polished concrete floors. I wasn’t sure if the move was going to be temporary or permanent so I was sitting on the floor, my bed, one of many pads, or a Helinox/Alite. After a month in my new studio, I was visiting a friend’s house and we sat on a sofa and I groaned audibly in pleasure when I sat on his sofa. I sit on a hard round metal art room stool at work so this really was my first time sitting on something soft in a month. I purchased a small sofa a couple of days later and my body feels better because of it. I continue to spend time on the floor but I’m also on the sofa.
So if you practice yoga and sit on the ground a lot it gets better. Also, Ryan is correct that sitting on a comfortable seat is important part of our recovery process.
Based on my own experience of yoga/floor time I encourage others to try that out and see if you can enhance your comfort on hard surfaces whether that is at home or in the field on a trip where you want to stay light.
I have found that doing squats with 10 pound dumbbells makes it easier to get down and back up. Also cross streams and put my pants on in the morning.
That is insane that anyone would carry a chair backpacking. From my perspective. But a lot of people love them. I should try taking a chair just to see.
I have a 240lb 1 rep max back squat, and a 210lb 1 rep max front squat. I still dislike sitting on the ground at the end of a long day of hiking. I’m going to Iceland in 7 days to backpack the Laugavegeur trail with friends and we’re bringing tents to avoid sleeping with 20 other snoring people in bunks in the mountain huts. There’s a whole lot of absolutely nothing to lean against, and at Hrafntinusker, I’ve even read that sharp bits of obsidian can be found on the ground waiting to slice up your backpack. Cool. Guess who’s taking an REI FlexLite Air chair with a DCF ground sheet/wrap? (This guy)
There are definitely times when I’ll leave the luxury of a chair behind. For example, if I’m required to carry a bear canister, that becomes my stool even though it’s not as comfortable as a chair. I wouldn’t be opposed to acquiring the MountainSmith Slingback chair just to have something to lean back against.
Everyone’s needs are different, so other factors need to be considered.
The Helinox chair zero is a torture rack for me because it locks my hips into one specific position causing lower back pain to flare in 30 minutes. I’m much more comfortable on the ground because it allows me to shift pressure points. I’m pretty flexible, which helps.
I bought a Helinox ground chair but never carried it once. I sometimes carry a 9 oz hammock set up (not to sleep in) that’s far more restorative than even a home chair.
The decision is always whether the benefit outweighs the extra load, and the usual answer for me is yes, for 9 oz. It’s also a great way to wash and air out feet and cook dinner while watching the sun go down.
I’d be hesitant to carry much more weight than that.
I was expecting to read through this thread and have a laugh at some strong opinions, and there is some of that. Did not expect to learn much, but I did.
The idea of training for ground sitting is a neat concept. Sitting cross legged can be hard for me if I don’t do it often, but when I make a habit of doing so, it helps stretch out my IT bands to keep my knees lined up and it gets my whole spine back in a good strong flexy state. I wouldn’t call cross-legged restful, but I wouldn’t call myself bendy, and thats something I can address with quick results if motivated by the idea of more comfortable hiking.
Also the hammock idea somehow evaded me. I have lots of hammocks, even a very small custom hammock that is under 4oz including suspension. I slept in it while bike touring but never thought to stash it for long day packs. That could really make my day.
Thanks BPL people. You have once again changed the way I experience miles.
And think of all the amazing naps you could have, Stefan!
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