Podcast Episode October 17, 2019

Podcast 018 | SKILLS SHORT – Clothing Systems for Inclement Weather


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Summary

Three key questions:

  1. What are clothing systems and why is it important to consider clothing in the context of a system?
  2. What does it mean when we talk about inclement conditions or summer vs. 3-season or 4-season backpacking?
  3. What pieces of clothing do we need to add or replace in our summer system in order to be better prepared for 3-season or inclement conditions?

Outline

Clothing System: TREKKING

description summer inclement 3+/4 season inclement
underwear* nylon compression shorts (anti-chafing) – 3 oz merino boxers (warmth) – 3 oz
trekking shirt* woven nylon l/s shirt (sun, insect protection, and evaporative cooling) – 5 oz merino 150 l/s shirt (warmth and sweat dispersion) – 7 oz
trekking pants* thin woven nylon (option 2) (sun, insect protection) – 8 oz 4-way stretch-woven softshell pant (warmth and wind protection, shedding snow) – 13 oz
gloves* sun gloves (sun protection) – 1 oz softshell glove (warmth, bushwhacking, rock scrambling, shedding snow and rain) – 3 oz
cap* crushable nylon cap w/brim – 2 oz crushable nylon cap w/brim – 2 oz

Clothing System: STORM

description summer inclement 3+/4 season inclement
wind shirt* thin, highly breathable hooded jacket – 4 oz thin, highly breathable hooded jacket – 4 oz
rain jacket* minimalist pullover, less breathable/durable (insurance layer) – 5 oz full-zip hooded w/pockets, more breathable/durable (highly breathable, worn more often) – 8 oz
rain pants* minimalist, pull-on – 4 oz minimalist, pull-on – 4 oz
rain mitts none minimalist, short gauntlet, seam-taped, WPB (rain protection) – 2 oz
warm headgear* merino 150 beanie – 1 oz merino 150 beanie + merino 150 tube scarf (additional warmth, easy temperature control layer) – 3 oz
active insulation active insulation vest – 6 oz active insulation pullover hoody (light) or full zip jacket (warmer, light) or warmer full zip jacket (for colder conditions) – 10 oz to 14 oz

Clothing System: CAMP

description summer inclement 3+/4 season inclement
long underwear* lightweight merino/polyester – 4 oz lightweight merino/polyester – 4 oz
insulated pants none synthetic or down insulated pants (pull-on) as temps get cold (for longer nights, worn in camp, sleep system insurance when very cold) – 7 oz
insulated jacket* down hooded pullover (light) – 8 oz down hooded pullover (midweight) or heavier jacket as temps get cold (warmth, more moisture protection on the outer shell) – 13 oz to 19 oz
sleep socks* light trekking socks – 2 oz heavy trekking socks or down socks as temps drop (warmth) – 3 oz to 5 oz

Clothing Weight Summary

Summer Fair Weather (*) Summer Inclement 3-Season Inclement 3+/4-Season Inclement
47 oz (2.9 lb) 53 oz (3.3 lb) 79 oz (4.9 lb) 98 oz (6.1 lb)
Add: active insulation torso layer

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  • #3614337
    Backpacking Light
    Admin

    @backpackinglight

    Locale: Rocky Mountains

    Companion forum thread to: Podcast 018 | SKILLS SHORT – Clothing Systems for Inclement Weather

    In this podcast, we discuss this: how does clothing system for 3/4 season, inclement conditions, differ from my summer backpacking clothing?

    #3614367
    Ken Larson
    BPL Member

    @kenlarson

    Locale: Western Michigan

    Ryan….You mentioned that your Yukon Down Pullover; K Series jacket had overfill.

    Questions:

    How much over fill did you have placed in the jacket.

    Was it distributed throughout the jacket or ??

    #3614970
    Ryan Jordan
    Admin

    @ryan

    Locale: Central Rockies

    1 oz, distributed evenly. Not sure that it’s necessary, the Yukon K is a well-filled product…

    #3614976
    Rex Sanders
    BPL Member

    @rex

    Locale: California

    “Activewear” products seem like the latest backpacking miracle – light, warm, very breathable – and expensive. Are they really that much better than fleece?

    — Rex

    #3615427
    Paul S.
    BPL Member

    @pschontz

    Locale: PNW

    No, they are just marginally better and often are worse.  It’s easy to get the wrong face fabric that kills the breathability.  But for the ones that do get it right, they are generally warmer for the weight and move moisture better. None are as durable as fleece.

    #3617408
    David Franzen
    Spectator

    @dfranzen

    Locale: Germany

    As i am located in Europe, I can not access some of the affiliated links (backcountry.com, GDPR).

    Can someone please let me know what trekking pants Ryan refers to as “4-way stretch-woven softshell pant” in 3+/4 season. Tkanks!

    #3617892
    William Chilton
    BPL Member

    @williamc3

    Locale: Antakya

    David, I’m not in the US  but your link takes me to the Backcountry page for Arcteryx Sigma FL Pants.

    #3618157
    David Franzen
    Spectator

    @dfranzen

    Locale: Germany

    Thank you, William!

    #3678150
    Stewart Lecky
    Spectator

    @stewart66

    Locale: N Ireland

    Can’t open that link either but perhaps look at Mountain Equipment IBEX trousers @ £70/80 gbp https://pricespy.co.uk/clothing/outdoor-trousers/mountain-equipment-ibex-pants-mens–p3548469

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