Using Extra Guyout Lines on Duplex for Headroom and Condensation Control

Somewhere on this site is a recent thread on this topic, but I am unable to locate it.  I use Zpacks trekking pole cups for my sidewall guy outs because they make it easy to pull the wall out.  A ground stake pulls the wall down, not out.  I have used the cups in two configurations:  the cup connected to the side wall directly (as shown below) OR a length of line from the side wall guy out to the cup to move the pole farther away from the tent.  Both configurations work for me.  As to condensation – I’m not convinced it can ever be totally eliminated.

http://www.zpacks.com/accessories/pole_cups.shtml

That does make sense.  I think I’ll be buying a couple of those to try.
There is nothing that could have prevented condensation Saturday night. In the morning, EVERYTHING outside was soaking wet and there was no rain. If I can give myself a little more room, I can reduce the effect of the condensation.

I have used them on the Duplex, Solomid, and Duomid shelters with good success.

Somewhere on this site is a recent thread on this topic, but I am unable to locate it.

@mr_squishy – Is this the thread you were looking for?

@69roadrunner – I too use the zpacks pole cups and recommend them.  I use a short piece of guy line between the tent and the cup…I think this works better than attaching the cup directly to the tent’s sidewall tie-out.

Thanks, JCH and Michael.  I ordered the pole cups and will give them a shot.  Unlike most things, they’re certainly cheap enough to experiment.

I use the pole cups on my hammock tarp and love them.  I usually pitch one side of the tarp lower (to block wind) and usually put my trekking poles (with the pole cups) on the other side for visibility around the campsite.  It also keeps small critters from chewing on my trekking pole handles since they’re elevated.

I don’t use pole cups, but I do use end poles to improve head/foot room, as per pic below. I had the CF poles made by Josh Leavitt (Ruta Locura, they do great work), 20″ high, each is two-section, each with a ‘spike’ at the top, each weighs 1.3 oz. I simply loop the guyline around the spike. Well worth the weight of the extra poles for me.

I wish that we could still buy the same Cuben Fiber material that prevented condensation as the early adopters were fond of reminding all the rest.

@Doug – I use Ruta Locura poles for my duplex which frees up my trekking poles to use with the Zpacks pole cups.  Love those RL poles.

@69roadrunner :   Sometimes condensation occurs even with leaving all vestibule doors open.  If condensation is really bad, leaving the top portion of the mesh doors down helps out a lot as it allows for better air movement through the tent.  I find it amazing how under low or no-wind conditions how much the mesh can slow down air movement.

Saturday night was perfect conditions for condensation. No wind, warm day and cool night. The grass and anything left outside was was wet.

I was hoping my camo print Dyneema would hide me from the condensation monster but apparently it doesn’t work that way.