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  • #3792458
    Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear
    BPL Member

    @jonfong

    Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR

    Here is a first look at the Fire Maple Petrel HX pot.  It cost about $22, weighs 5.7 oz and has a capacity of a little over 899 ml.

    YouTube video

     

    #3792459
    Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear
    BPL Member

    @jonfong

    Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR

    The pot did have a quality issue.  The slots and the HX fins were not aligned in one section.  A quick fix was to saw off the offending fine.  More data soon.

    Good Slot

    Bad Slot

     

    #3792503
    Piney
    BPL Member

    @drewjh-2

    I’m curious what it would weigh chopped down to about 600ml, minus the handle, with a light lid and cozy.

    #3792646
    Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear
    BPL Member

    @jonfong

    Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR

    Here are the updates:

    The complete Fire Maple Petrel system performs almost identical to the JetBoil Stash: weight, efficiency, size.   But, cost half as much.  Adding a windscreen jacks up the performance in the wind by a lot.

    YouTube video

    Now, I think that the ideal system is the Petrel HX mug and the Soto WindMaster 3-Flex.  Performance in calm conditions is ok at 6.5 g to boil 500 ml of water.  But, in the wind with no windscreen at all it can boil the same amount using less than 9 g of fuel.

    YouTube video

     

     

    #3800636
    Gregory S
    BPL Member

    @gregstaley11gmail-com

    I am curious as well. How would the cut top of the shortened pot be made safe? Without a handle, perhaps a halulite pot holder?

    #3800662
    Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear
    BPL Member

    @jonfong

    Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR

    Personally, I would not trim the pot down as the extra room for boil overs is nice to have.  If I were to trim down the mug, there are two choices that seem reasonable.

    A) trim down the mug and add a neoprene sleave like JetBoil

    B) remove the handle/latch hardware, trim down the mug and then JB weld the handle back in place.

     

    My 2 cents.

    #3800763
    Eric Blumensaadt
    BPL Member

    @danepacker

    Locale: Mojave Desert

    “… and JB WELD the handle back in place.”

    I love it when people here refer to solutions like JB WELD, duct tape, bailing wire, WD30,  etc. These solutions are SO ‘Merican. :o)

    #3805316
    Alan W
    BPL Member

    @at-reactor

    Petrel Lid Replacements

    I’m delighted with Petrel pot & MSR PRD combo for balance of convenience and weight.  Adding a 7 g Ti windscreen and a Moulder strip winterproofs the system, when not melting lots of ice.

    However, the Petrel lid is heavy at 27 g, AND even worse, mine binds in my pot when boiling water, making removal a cautious task to avoid scalding burns.

    Happily, the Petrel is a nominal 95 mm pot, and this is a standard size for the top of many “large”,  ~32 oz soft drink cups.  3 options are shown in the photo attached, and all 3 lids fit the Petrel.  I’ve settled on the heaviest of the 3, still only 5.5 g, for more wind resistance, on the pot and off.

    I may add a bit of Dyneema repair tape to top for a lifting grab.

    (A Toaks Ti 95 mm lid also fits, but it was heavier than listed on-line, about 22 g; and so I returned.)

    Yes, the Petrel handle is overkill also.  I’m still thinking on that, but easy and securely safe are worth something as is.

    #3805368
    jscott
    BPL Member

    @book

    Locale: Northern California

    “I love it when people here refer to solutions like JB WELD, duct tape, bailing wire, WD30,  etc. These solutions are SO ‘Merican. :o)”

    Heart valve replacement? Wrap some tin foil around the two cut sections and then  finish with duct tape. Ya prolly wanna sterilize the tin foil by holding it under a bic lighter flame for a few seconds. Careful not to burn your fingers!

    #3805382
    Thom
    BPL Member

    @popcornman

    Locale: N NY

    Stretch silicone lid 14g . I can cold soak food in my cook pot.

    #3806253
    Don Montierth
    BPL Member

    @chumango

    Locale: East TN

    How well does this pot work with a Pocket Rocket Deluxe?  It has three pot supports but they are offset, not centered radially.  It’s not clear that it would fit very well.

    #3806254
    Gregory S
    BPL Member

    @gregstaley11gmail-com

    The pot supports on the PRD need to be bent slightly (tweaked) and it will fit fine. Greg

    #3806256
    bradmacmt
    BPL Member

    @bradmacmt

    Locale: montana

    It’s a real shame Sterno discontinued the Inferno. A really great pot, and with Dutchware lid, 1.3 oz’s lighter than the Fire Maple.

    #3806283
    Phong D
    BPL Member

    @poledancer

    Thom – what lid do you have?

    #3806369
    Jan Rezac
    BPL Member

    @zkoumal

    Locale: Prague, CZ

    Instead of bending the stove legs, I modified the pot so that it works with multiple stoves. Pictures here.

    #3806469
    Ray Klahne
    BPL Member

    @klahne

    Locale: South Florida

    Here’s another cook system which was recently introduced. I haven’t received my order yet, so there’s nothing I can say about it, other than the diameter allows for the use of the 10 cm aluminum lid sold at Dutchware Gear. There’s never much inventory and they go quick. It’s an opportunity for those who were never able to get a Sterno Inferno.

    BRS 61

    #3806656
    Chris T
    BPL Member

    @wanderingpagan

    Ray –

    have you used this system yet? I saw this on AliExpress, but it went out of stock almost immediately. Curious to hear about your experience and what the different components weigh. Cheers

    #3806664
    Thom
    BPL Member

    @popcornman

    Locale: N NY
    #3808026
    Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear
    BPL Member

    @jonfong

    Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR

    I ordered a BRS 61 and it just arrive.

    BRS 61
    Total Weight – 12 oz

    Stove – 5.1 ox
    Stuff sack – 0.3 oz
    Pot (complete) – 6.6 oz
    – Lid -0.8 oz
    – Sleave/handle – 1.0 oz
    – Bare pot – 4.7 oz

     

    The stove is a tank, I bought it for just the HX pot.  The pot itself looks identical in size/volume as the Fire Maple Petrel.  The Petrel with the metal handles are the same weight as the bare BRS 61 pot.  The interesting thing is that the bottom of the pot has a rounded triangular openning that helps it lock into the stove.

    #3808056
    Mole J
    BPL Member

    @mole

    Locale: UK
    #3808057
    Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear
    BPL Member

    @jonfong

    Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR

    It does.  I paid just under $28, shipping extra.  I see that the price increased to ~$80: not a deal at that price.  The stove is a boat anchor, it weighs over 5 oz.  I haven’t done any wind tunnel testing yet.  I think that there are lighter, better options out there like the Soto/Petrel combo.  My 2 cents.

    YouTube video

     

     

    #3808065
    CFDTuc
    BPL Member

    @ncfftuc

    Jon,

    Only made it 20 seconds in and couldn’t continue.  The Gearskeptic reference with the hands just threw me into hysterics.  Love it!!  Congratulations!

     

    I’ll have to continue when I can watch without breaking down laughing.

    #3808069
    Jerry Adams
    BPL Member

    @retiredjerry

    Locale: Oregon and Washington

    there is a resemblance to the gear skeptic

    #3808070
    Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear
    BPL Member

    @jonfong

    Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR

    My hommage to a great contributor.  ;-)

     

    #3808209
    Gregory S
    BPL Member

    @gregstaley11gmail-com

    Preface: I never boil water, my goal is 180 degrees F. I am a three season backpacker at best. I rarely use more than a cup and a half of filtered water to rehydrate my freeze dried/dehydrated meals, oatmeal breakfast and instant coffee mix. I run my Soto windmaster at the lowest setting. Here is my system in its present state. Shout out to John Fong and followers for their desire to innovate and share ideas, all of which I have liberally borrowed. The Petrel pot has been cut down and “de-handled”. The HX ring protector/wind deflector has been removed. I sanded the top edge and it feels smooth and safe. My hand is just big enough to get around the pot to pour hot water into my meal bag.The pot did get hot to the touch after firing up some water, so I added insulation in the form of 1/8″ thick by 1 ” wide high density closed cell foam adhesive weather strip insulation .

    (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RWT4RXY?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1)

    This was then covered with a 2 inch wide silicone band (grafiti bands 2×5″) and a black silicone band at the top. My initial thought was to keep my hand (in lieu of the handle) from contacting the hot pot, but I have placed it in a way that insulates below the water level and I feel this will make my fuel use more efficient. My only innovation is the lid (3/16″ rigid pink insulation foam board (Owens Corning) carefully covered with HVAC foil duct tape) The lid floats on the water and leaves little room for evaporative heat loss. I should add that I don’t cook food in my pot other than my crappy coffee. I carry a small fuel canister with three legged support and the Soto Windmaster triflex. The photos do not show a small bic mini lighter which I carry for back-up. My present windscreen is a cut down MSR aluminum foil sheet (1.3 ounces).  I am working on changing that to a thinner foil. Finally I am adding a reversible temperature indicating strip to the lid that will tell me when 180F is reached. Not sure how that will work out. My initial worries about the silicone bands getting too near/hot from the flame from the stove have been eased by about twenty tests. The key is to NEVER run at high throttle. I’ll have to watch my pot with focus. Photos attached and comment/constructive criticism is always welcomed. Again, thanks John Fong.

    Greg AT04 GA>ME

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