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Tents with new fabrics on the way?

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Terrence C BPL Member
PostedOct 17, 2022 at 5:11 pm

Do you guys think there will be tents made with different / superior fabrics in the near future?

I don’t know much about fabrics, and there is a lot to learn with them all. Currently DCF tents seem to be the lightest for tent manufacturing, but also very expensive and don’t pack small (if I understand correctly).

I have seen it claimed that Ultra fabric is superior to dyneema for its durability. Would individuals or small cottage brands be considering this for a tent? Is X-pac the same as Ultra? Are there other competitors for potential tent fabrics?

Have any of the amazing MYOGers tried something crazy with alternative fabrics?

Cheers,

~TC

PostedOct 17, 2022 at 10:48 pm

Could you post a link to the fabric you are considering for a tent?  The lightest woven Dyneema I’ve found is Ecopac Ultra 100, and at 3 0z/sq/yd is more suitable for a pack.

Porcher, a French company that makes Paraglider fabric, now makes Skytex fabrics with the suffix ‘T2’  which has been claimed to be suitable for tents.  But I’ve been unable to obtain some.

PostedOct 18, 2022 at 11:41 pm

Henry’s latest that I’ve seen on BPL is a silpoly, but I don’t have much in the way of specs.

PostedOct 20, 2022 at 9:34 pm

There are lots of new materials, but nothing that is going to dethrone DCF in the near future because none of the major new materials are anywhere close to DCF weights. As mentioned, ultra is at least 4-6x heavier. There are some other neat new materials too, but not much sub 1oz/yd.

Regarding DCF, the packed size is primarily larger if the tent has a DCF floor because the heavier weights of DCF used for floors use 2.5x as thick mylar which is a lot more bulky and makes the entire tent bulky. That’s one of the reason we use a woven floor instead (arguably better durability at the same weight and smaller packed size).

Terrence C BPL Member
PostedOct 25, 2022 at 8:58 am

Thanks for info everyone. I didn’t realize the significant weight difference of Ecopak Ultra fabrics. That would clearly put them out of the race for larger products like tents. Thanks also Dan for explaining about the pros/cons of DCF floors. Perhaps Skytex will be a fabric of interest for the future, but that is far down the road if at all.

Very grateful for the wisdom and support of this community!

Peace,

~TC

PostedNov 2, 2022 at 12:08 am

TC,

A current thread on the MYOG forum revealed that RBTR is now selling a fairly light weight eco woven silpoly tent fabric.  That thread is at:  https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/myog-1p-trekking-pole-tent-for-demanding-conditions/#post-3763397

The product page at RBTR is at:  https://ripstopbytheroll.com/products/1-1-oz-eco-silpoly?variant=28551516913712

The eco is spec’d at 1.29 oz/sq/yd, a bit more than the 1.1 oz RBTR silpoly that weighed in at 1.24 oz/sq/yd, and the eco is spec’d with sil coated on both sides with no mention of PU in the coating.  But it’s best claim to fame on the site seems to be the use of reconstituted poly.  And the lightest color is Moroccan Blue, whereas the 1.1 oz silpoly that RBTR has been selling for years was available in some light colors, including green tea, but now appears to be being phased out, and RBTR sounds very strong on its extra wide 1.1 oz silpoly due to greater strength and waterproofing.  That does come with a weight penalty, however, as it is spec’d at 1.75 oz/sq/yd, which is considerably higher than extrem textil’s 30 denier, 1.33 oz/sq/yd silpoly that comes in sand, as well as darker colors.

But if you are looking for something new and prefer fabrics in medium to dark shades, the eco might be worth looking at.  No telling how durable it is.

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