- Jan 20, 2020 at 7:28 am #3627992
I’m looking for your thoughts.
I have a Zpacks Duplex which I absolutely love. I’ve experienced many tents over the past few years and I’ve come to the conclusion that this “form factor” is what I’m staying with.
Here’s my situation. I plan on backpacking the Kungsleden this year and I’m not sure that the Duplex would be the best choice. Most of the time (fair weather) the Duplex performs splendidly and I want no other tent but there have been two occasions that give me pause. Once during a two-week TGO trek across Scotland and the other a one-week trek bushwhacking through the Catskills in upstate NY. Both times had severe inclement weather – lots of wind and rain. I’m a tall person and my quilt has the consequence of pushing up against the end walls. Being mesh and single-walled, water would easily find its way into the Duplex either via up-splash or capillary action. Not a happy camper.
I love the design of the Duplex and seeing the StratoSpire Li, the Henry Shires’ tent appears to be an unfair-weather version of the Duplex. For the Kungsleden in mid-June, I’m thinking that this would be a better option. And if I do the TGO again, definitely a better option.
As an aside, when I did the TGO, I was stunned at the number of Tarptents that I saw. They appear to be extremely popular in the UK.
Thanks for your help.
…oh, and to make matters more indecisive, I was just made aware that Hilleberg is releasing their version of a Duplex this spring. Hmmm…Jan 20, 2020 at 4:17 pm #3628048Buddy BBPL Member
For the record I am no expert in gear, backpacking or extreme weather trips.
I purchased my Stratospire Li in (SSLi) December 2018 with both inserts. I just returned from a 2 day 2 night trip with DTHs in the 30’s and NTLs in the 20’s with a windchill in the single digits during the overnight using my Stratospsire Li with the silnylon/dyneema insert. The solid interior does keep the wind from coming under the outer tarp from sweeping across you at ground level.
I tend to use SSLi with the solid insert when the weather is going be foul and I may spend additional time in my tent and I want to spread out. The vestibules are generous especially when you want that hot cup of coffee before climbing out of tent when it cold is windy and some from water is falling all around. I personally haven’t had any issues or concerns with the tents ability to withstand the weather.
I do use it during the summer with the screen mesh/dyneema insert, but mostly when my wife tags along for weekend trips, (I prefer the Aeon Li for milder weather solo trips.) and as just a tarp when it isn’t buggy.
I really where the SSLi shines is in it’s versatility, you can use it as just a tarp, or use the inserts depending upon the conditions expected for your trip. One tent to rule them all…maybe!?!
The footprint is large for some areas of the AT I frequent, and site selection can be challenging.
I haven’t had any regrets with this purchase.Jan 20, 2020 at 4:53 pm #3628050Franco DarioliBPL Member
“I was just made aware that Hilleberg is releasing their version of a Duplex this spring”
Hilleberg , in 1973, had the Keb
this was the 3 person versionJan 20, 2020 at 6:27 pm #3628067JCHBPL Member
Everything old is new again.Jan 22, 2020 at 3:49 am #3628245
That’s a good point regarding wind that I had forgotten about. There have been a few times with the Duplex where a cold wind has blown all through the night and swept right across the bottom making for a chilly sleep.
Thanks for the feedback.Jan 23, 2020 at 2:33 pm #3628426Gunnar HBPL Member
I would say that a Stratosspire Li with a solid inner is clearly better than Duplex and even more so if you have problems stying dry in your Duplex. I have used one in that area and the wind will make your Duplex colder, but as long as you are have a slightly warmer sleeping bag you should be OK. There are also cabins where you can bail out along all parts of Kungsleden except one. The cabins opens 18/6 but there should aways be one room open anyway.
I trust you are aware that it is very early in the season. Expect quite a bit of snow unless it is an earlier than normal snowmelt.Jan 24, 2020 at 6:59 pm #3628624
I appreciate the concern. I’m thinking of backpacking the trail late-May through early-June and, as such, I’m debating whether it might be better to begin south in Hemavan and head north as it gets warmer.Jan 25, 2020 at 4:08 am #3628647Gunnar HBPL Member
Ok, that is well before the summer season. Thinking about it again, I spontaniously think it is not possible to do Kungsleden then unless you are prepared to stop for a couple of weeks to wait for the thaw to complete at some major water crossings. Your best bet is probably to hope that the spring is not earlier than normal so you can do 90% on skis at night and early mornings. (There will be light and lovely mornings if you are lucky with wheater, so that in it self is not negative.) However, as you know there are some boat passages and it seems inavoidable to be stuck at someone of them during the period where the ice will not carry but the water is not open enough for boats. The boats starts regulary when the huts opens, but you can maybe find someone that can help you with that, the main problem is unreliable ice hindering the boats at the major crossings. You should also have be well experienced at winter/spring above the treeline even for Kungsleden when going there in this most difficult of periods. There will surely be lovely days in total solitude though. I guess you will hardly meet anyone before getting close to Abisko. You cold consider alternatives as having a hice winter hike in mild March/April, waiting until the cabins open 18/6, there will still not be much people that early, or being more stationary i. e. in the Abisko area having nice days and doing what is achievable. The mountain station will be open and there you should be able to rent skis or snow shoes depending on what the spring has on offer.Jan 25, 2020 at 6:05 am #3628649David CaudwellBPL Member
@dcinbcLocale: Gulf Islands, Coastal BC
I wouldn’t imagine the Hilleberg “Duplex” to be a direct contender – if it’s true to Hilleberg form it will weigh considerably more than the other two. The published weight is a “very light” 1.3kg!? (For a trekking-pole supported tarp-tent!). It’s almost like “I know we can do it! We can duplicate that design at double the weight. I know we can!” Their tents are beautifully made but they are never knowingly under-built!Jan 25, 2020 at 1:57 pm #3628716Franco DarioliBPL Member
“We can duplicate that design at double the weight”
I have already pointed out that Hilleberg had that design in 1973 , called the Keb.
Decades later that designed morphed into the Rajd, still before Zpacks started to make tents.
(Photo from a BPL article)
Now it’supdated again with the Anaris
to me clearly Hilleberg .in this case. is not the one copying anyone else.Jan 25, 2020 at 2:45 pm #3628727David CaudwellBPL Member
@dcinbcLocale: Gulf Islands, Coastal BC
No, I get that, and I saw your other comment.
The Duplex and the Keb and the Rajd and the GG “The Two” all share basic A frame DNA. But the Anaris looks a lot more like a Duplex than its direct predecessors and the success of the Duplex was at least partly in the mind of the designers, I’m sure.
In the end no one is copying anyone – it’s all variations on a theme!
Nonetheless, the point (and the fondly-intended joke) was that the Anaris is not a contender for someone looking for a UL alternative to DCF tents like the Duplex and the StratoSpire Li .Feb 2, 2020 at 8:32 am #3629582John MennaBPL Member
I have both the Z packs triplex and the stratosphire Li Henry’s tent is the better Tent.
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