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PostedJun 28, 2024 at 5:13 pm

 

It requires fewer samples to get statistical significance.field tests are good because you get all the uncontrolled variables that you may not be aware of.

Sorry, people use the excuse of uncontrolled variables without really understanding the system.  Variables can be controlled, but it takes a lot of work to characterize, measure and control those variables.  This is one of the things that Gear Skeptic does a reasonable job at.

I like to do 4 tests – condition 1, condition 2, condition 2, condition 1. The difference between the two condition 1 tests, and between the two condition 2 tests will give you an idea how repeatable the test is, and if the difference between condition 1 and condition 2 is much greater, then maybe you’ve actually discovered something. Doing 1, 2, 2, 1 will cancel out any linear errors, like as the canister gets more empty.

Well, not quite.  First, you need replicates (N much greater than 2).  Second, you need randomization.   Then you need analysis.  One of the main areas of improvement in Gear Skeptic’s analysis is single to limited sample sizes.  I understand the reluctence as replication substantially increases the amount of testing.  When I validate a system, I normally do 6 replicates of each test.  In large test, I also randomize.  So, in your example, I would be doing at least 12 test, not 4 and the results would only be valid if I could statistically prove a difference.  My 2 cents.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedJun 28, 2024 at 7:27 pm

That makes sense. I agree.

Doing my 4 tests is a shortcut.  If there’s a large difference between condition 1 and 2, you’ll see it.

Dan BPL Member
PostedJun 29, 2024 at 6:14 am

Not the most exciting topic, but as many of you probably know, there is a formal way to systematically design experiments to test the effects of multiple parameters efficiently. It goes by the name of “design of experiments” (DOE) and it has become popular for industrial testing. If you are interested, there are various online tutorials/classes.

Kevin Babione BPL Member
PostedJul 1, 2024 at 6:24 pm

Regardless of what Gear Skeptic says, you put a lid on the pot to keep stuff from falling into it while you’re heating your water!

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedJul 1, 2024 at 8:06 pm

Yes, not taking a lid makes no sense because stuff will fall in

But, the data is just data – it consumes negligible extra fuel to take off lid.

If I take the lid off and the water isnt hot enough, and if it’s not windy with stuff blowing around, I won’t bother putting the lid back on

This isn’t very useful data

Maybe it could inspire someone to find something more useful

It’s counter intuitive – I thought a lid would have made a bigger difference.  I like discovering counter intuitive data

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