Mar 28, 2020 at 5:33 pm #3638328Ryan JordanAdmin
@ryanLocale: Central Rockies
Andrew and Ryan discuss the ethics of backpacking in light of Covid-19. They are joined by Jeff Garmire and Maggie Slepian.Mar 28, 2020 at 7:50 pm #3638381Bruce TolleyBPL Member
@btolleyLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
Thanks for a thoughtful contribution to the current health crisis.
RE Stay at home orders and the statement that “Most have an exception for outdoor activity where social distancing can be maintained.”
1) As many have noted, “Outdoor activity” would not include thru hiking. a) In Santa Clara County the shelter in place order is an order to stay in your residence. The exception is to leave temporarily to engage in outdoor activity. But the clear directive is to return to your residence.
Second, the order also bans travel that is not necessary. You have to travel to a trail head. The shelter in place orders in California ban “unnecessary” travel which is defined in the orders. Santa Clara County FAQ on shelter in place. “Does the Order allow me to leave the County? Yes, but only to perform “essential activities,” operate “essential businesses,” or to maintain “essential governmental functions,” as those terms are defined in the Order. Otherwise, the answer is no because that puts you and others in the community at risk.”
2) This outdoor recreation exception is likely to become even more strict in urban areas. In Paris, France today you can be issue citations for being more than 2km from your house
3) Local parks and open spaces in the San Francisco Bay Area are closing parking lots because people are abusing the exception and not maintaining social distance. San Francisco SF.gov “You may walk, bike or go for a run near your home. If you need to get into a car or on public transportation to go for a walk or run, you’re going too far.”Apr 3, 2020 at 8:22 am #3639447James MarcoBPL Member
@jamesdmarcoLocale: Finger Lakes
Thanks, guys! This is a good statement of what really needs to be done nation-wide.
Here in NY, state parks are closed. Admittedly, we have two kinds, so these can be rather ambiguous. ALL DEC sites are closed to the public for any reason. I have never seen such a stringent rule in New York State: https://www.adirondackalmanack.com/2020/04/adirondack-outdoor-conditions-4-2-recreatelocal.html?utm_source=Adirondack+Almanack&utm_campaign=a75319f4b7-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b49eb0d11b-a75319f4b7-24936693&mc_cid=a75319f4b7&mc_eid=821e343f00
Looking ahead we can expect most trails to be closed to overnights over the next few weeks. If they are not, then a responsible person should consider them so. Recreation will likely be limited to 1 mile or less. Again, official or voluntary. This sounds like a major problem with individual rights, but, for the short term it IS necessary. I would rather see time limits on all special legislation to 30 days from it’s adoption, regardless, to protect our constitutional rights. But, despite what our glorious leader says, I do not anticipate an end to precautions in 30 days. Rather, I expect this to continue for about 12-24months.
By reducing the spread we reduce the fatality rate tremendously. We also lengthen the time of infection tremendously. And amplifys the importance of survivors of the disease to society. Everyone is familiar with the concept of reducing the apex of the curve to manageable levels, but we have not examined closely the overall lengthening of the duration of the disease incidence on the population. Nor, the reduction of the quality of any services due to untrained or partially trained personnel taking over at need. There is NO clear plan for dealing with a 6 week illness, after a 2 week incubation time. Places like hospitals will be overwhelmed, but more importantly important services will also be effected. Our medical personnel need to be rationed and added sparingly to the system to insure we have enough for treatment in two months. Or, go without treatment despite having the equipment.
Shipping (food, goods, clothing, etc,) power (operaters, power line operations, gas lines, refineries, etc,) and so on. Example: While we can get crops into the ground and grow them, it is difficult to transport fertilizers, insecticides etc as needed. And about the time we need to harvest our crops is about the time farm workers will be getting ill. There is NO plan to cover this. This is the true failure of the political administrations “cover your ass” attitude. We need this type of long range planning. Plan for the worst, hope for the best, as backpackers we are familiar with this type of planning. Untill we have a vaccine, this is what we need to do.
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