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Permethrin Treatment – Send it in or DIY?


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    Anonymous
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    I see Insect Shield offers a send it in offer where you can send in your garment for them to treat that will work for up to 70 washes.

     

    This got me thinking – whats the best way to replicate their process at home?

     

    I see most people soaking in diluted permethrin and then giving it a rinse. Would a higher concentration help, then maybe a high heat dry? As part of their disclaimer Insect Shield specifically says that items need to be able to be dried at a decent heat setting.

    Im wondering with some diluted permethrin, an oven or dryer set on higher heat, and with multiple soakings, can we achieve the same level of treatment?

    #3490643
    JCH
    BPL Member

    @pastyj-2-2

    Send it in. DIY lasts <5 washes.  You cannot replicate the process at home.

    #3490653
    Arthur
    BPL Member

    @art-r

    Not so fast.  Read an extensive thread here on this issue. it discusses the chemistry of how to make the DIY last longer.

     

    #3490660
    Ken Thompson
    BPL Member

    @here

    Locale: Right there

    At home works fine with me. So inexpensive and easy. Instructions and more found here,

    http://www.med.navy.mil/sites/nmcphc/Documents/nepmu-6/Entomology/Technical-Guides/AFPMB-TG36-PERSONAL-PROTECTION.pdf

    #3490714
    Rex Sanders
    BPL Member

    @rex

    Here’s one short permethrin thread, citing a study on permethrin-treated uniforms:

    https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/91472/

    The results of this study suggest that longevity of control is more related to time; all the [commercially] treated clothes used in this study lost their punch after one year, but didn’t always get laundered 70 times.

    No statistically significant differences in number of tick bites were detected between commercial permethrin treatment (19.33%) and the do-at-home permethrin application method (24.67%).

    — Rex

    #3490943
    JCH
    BPL Member

    @pastyj-2-2

    So…for those of you going the DIY route, the treatment lasts 70 washings?

    #3491033
    Rex Sanders
    BPL Member

    @rex

    I retreat every year, based on the research quoted above – far less than 70 washings.

    Haven’t seen any independent research backing the claim of 70 washings for Insect Shield.

    — Rex

    #3491052
    JCH
    BPL Member

    @pastyj-2-2

    I stand by my original response based on longevity of effectiveness.  The Insect Shield treatment is EPA registered to last, and remain effective, through 70 washings.  You can trust the EPA, or not, at your discretion. The reports provided on this board and elsewhere indicate a DIY treatment lasts 4-5 washings.  Sawyer claims their DIY treatment will last 6 washings.  I have 3 year old IS treated clothing that has been washed at least 40-50 times that still performs as advertised.

    DIY vs factory applied Permethrin treatment has been discussed ad-nauseum on this board, so there is no doubt that a DIY treatment is “effective”.  That is not the question posed by the OP, which was “whats the best way to replicate their process at home?…can we achieve the same level of treatment?

    Since Permethrin is toxic to fish and feline, I see no sense in washing it down the drain and into the environment over the course of 5 washings all for want of spending a few dollars.  I doubt anyone would pour a bottle of it into a stream, why would you do the same only a little more slowly?  If we are promoting DIY out of a desire to save money, I would argue that the cost of the Permethrin needed to treat clothing 14 times plus your time and labor to do so is a false savings.

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