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New Windscreen Design – 9" Tall, Yet Fits Inside an SP 450 Cup


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    Simon Wurster
    BPL Member

    @einstein

    Locale: Big Apple

    Hi All,
    [This is not a commercial product. I don’t sell it or even make it. OK, I made a few prototypes, but I’m sharing the design here in case anyone wants to make their own. I find mine quite useful, and just wanted to share it with the Backpacking Light Community.]

    I’ve been tinkering over the years with many DIY projects, and have spent a lot of time thinking about and prototyping windscreens. My need has been to have a windscreen that fits inside my cookpot and is tall enough to cover the full height of the stove + cookpot, as I find this reduces boil times with an alcohol stove quite a bit.

    I made a few prototypes about five years ago of this seemingly paradoxical windscreen. It fits entirely inside a Snow Peak 450 cup or similar, yet can cover an 3″ tall / 6″ wide pot sitting on a 5″ tall canister stove, as well as a 6″ tall / 2.5″ wide bottle sitting on a 3″ tall alcohol stove. I call it the SnakeScreen.

    The SnakeScreen is a strip of aluminum, ~40″ long and 2.5″ wide that is rolled up in a helical fashion to create a long tube that is placed over the stove and cookpot combination to serve as a windscreen. Slits and tabs along the length of the SnakeScreen interlock to hold the screen together, and the geometry of the strip is such that the tube stands up straight when placed vertically. The screen works with wide or narrow pots–one screen, many pots, so-to-speak. It coils up into a 2.5″ tall cylinder that fits inside any pot or cup I own (quite a few!).

    Advantages:

    1. If you’re using a tall and skinny pot (really a bottle–see video below), the SnakeScreen will cover the entire setup, stove + pot, decreasing boil times and fuel usage.
    2. If you have different size pots in your rotation (e.g., solo vs. groups), the SnakeScreen will work with both–one screen, many pots.

    I should point out that the price of aluminum shim stock has doubled over the last five years, so from a $42 roll (0.006″ thick) that’s 100″ x 6″, you can only get four windscreens… that’s about $11 ea… But think of the fuel savings, LOL.

    The hardest part of this design was finding a D-shaped punch, which I finally found on Amazon. I used Fiskars craft scissors to cut the bottom edge as this provided more friction within the D-slits.

    Video 1, SnakeScreen inside my MLD Trapper’s Mug: https://photos.app.goo.gl/pdWAweV5nzxB86Wq6

    Video 2, assembly instructions: https://photos.app.goo.gl/m5YCK1JpcEXdjRYU8

    Reply here with Q’s, comments.

    Einstein

    #3560311
    Jon Fong / Flat Cat Gear
    BPL Member

    @jonfong

    Locale: FLAT CAT GEAR

    Pretty slick!

    #3560379
    Gumbo
    BPL Member

    @redgum

    Locale: Aussie in exile in the PNW

    Ingeneous. How much does it weigh?

    I’m guessing it works better for an alcohol stove. My own experiments with canister windshields concluded that they need a lot of air holes for combustion, though I suppose the variable diametr of you masterpiece would allow a 1″+ gap around the pot, which might be enough, but that would eat into height. Thinking how this would work with my wide (2 person) 1350ml pot atop a canister…

    #3560392
    Matthew / BPL
    Moderator

    @matthewkphx

    Whoa! That’s an interesting idea. Thanks for sharing it.

    #3560405
    Simon Wurster
    BPL Member

    @einstein

    Locale: Big Apple

    Thanks everyone for the kind words!

    It weighs 1.2 oz. as shown, using 0.006″ (0.15mm) aluminum shim stock. There are two rows of D-slits, one with a large pitch for tall/skinny pots, one with a small pitch for short/wide pots. I suppose you could use the large pitch with a larger diameter pot, or use a longer strip–I’ll have to check on that. Also, this is not recommended for canister stoves–that was used just as an example of height vs. width–sorry!

    Yes, the pictures are misleading–I use binder clips at the bottom to increase air flow. I used to put holes on my windscreens but the the combined surface area of the holes was never enough, or simply raising the screen a 1/4″ made the holes superfluous.

    [Interesting calculation to do in a spreadsheet–holes are a poor way to ventilate a screen, unless they are large dia. (1/4″ or more), and then the structural integrity is undermined–plus they’re more work to manufacture! The needs of combustion (varies per stove), sensitivity to wind (varies per stove), current conditions (varies), etc., can affect the D2F (distance to flow, yes this is an homage to HBO’s Silicon Valley), so it’s not very scientific.]

    Einstein

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