- Jul 23, 2019 at 7:09 pm #3603130
Brad PBPL Member
I know there’s a box where you can exchange food. We also REALLY don’t want to cook a breakfast. Do you simply go to the box as soon as you pick up the food and exchange? Do you instruct scouts that if they don’t like a particular breakfast or lunch item, they need to make sure they pick something up that’s comparable so they eat enough?
Is it ever possible to exchange a dinner for the entire crew? I wouldn’t think so.
I have a couple picky eaters who probably need to be monitored to make sure they’re eating enough.Jul 23, 2019 at 8:57 pm #3603144
David YBPL Member
@moonshineLocale: Mid Tenn
I feel for you; we don’t cook breakfast either. We start hiking before dawn each day.
Commissaries don’t generally have Swap Boxes. Swap Boxes are usually only found at Staffed Camps. Their staff put out their Swap Box on the porch of their cabin during daylight hours. Any and all crews are welcome to contribute or take any un-opened food items any time the box is on the porch.
Swap Boxes generally have odds and ends of items crews don’t want or like but seldom complete meals for a crew of any size.
If you have a meal you don’t want be thinking ahead and investigate Swap Box for gems, you’ll be surprised what people put in them. As you may pass through one or more Staffed Camps during your hike you will have multiple opportunities to search for goodies and be able to collect enough breakfast and lunch type items days before you need to cook that breakfast.
Each morning our Crew Leader lays out all breakfast items in a line of 12 equal piles. In the case of a mis-matched substitute breakfast items the piles may not be identical, just equal. Camper may swap or give away items they don’t want.
“Philmont should be enjoyed, not endured.” Moonshine
Jul 23, 2019 at 9:20 pm #3603151
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Bruce TolleyBPL Member
@btolleyLocale: San Francisco Bay Area
I think you can table this one until your first food pick up. The crews figure out pretty fast what they like and what they don’t like. To build on David’s comment above, your crew leader can gather input from the crew on what to leave behind from the food pickup and what to pick up. I, for example, loved the squeeze cheese with jalapeno others did not.
Breakfasts are the most problematic I think. Some Scouts love breakfast bars and others like oatmeal, etc. If you already know on Day 1 that no one in your crew will eat oatmeal, you probably don’t want to carry it, and it goes into the box.Jul 23, 2019 at 11:18 pm #3603176
TAG in AZBPL Member
Honestly, there is generally enough variety in the food bags to take care of most picky eaters. Scouts can trade amongst the crew and forage out of the swap boxes. No one should go hungry.
And, if all else fails, take the tortillas. I say this on every Philmont food related post, but really, you can take as many as you want at food pickup.Jul 24, 2019 at 1:15 am #3603189
Brad PBPL Member
Sounds like we’ll be good and swapping out the cooked breakfast shouldn’t be too much of a challenge.
I know if I get cat food (tuna) for lunch, I’ll be looking to swap it.
Thank you!Jul 25, 2019 at 1:42 am #3603342
Stephen EversonBPL Member
The swap boxes show what is not the favorite of the crews. One swap box was filled with the spicy peanut butter. I went to one swap box and it seems like an entire meal ( the one with the mashed potato) was in the box..for an entire crew….can’t believe the entire crew did not like meal but there were enough packets in there for an entire crew…..I also tried to grab one or two of the Justin peanut butter packets and have one of the those before I started hiking in the morning to give me some energy before we stopped for breakfast. We had a special stuff sack to put all the breakfast meals for the morning in. When we would pack up in the morning, one person would carry the breakfast bag. When we finally reached a nice place to have breakfast, only one person had to dig into the pack to get the breakfast out. System seemed to work well for us. We also took a sharpie and would mark the outside of the bag with a crew members name. This way, each two person group would get their meal packet. Each two person group would jointly go through the bags and decide what they were/were not going to eat. Some wanted the gatorade packets, some did not. Our thought was to why carry food you and your partner were not planning on eating. This was just our strategy for handling food.Jul 25, 2019 at 4:19 pm #3603404
David YBPL Member
@moonshineLocale: Mid Tenn
Every crew needs to work out a strategy for meal and food planning rather than be hap hazard.
We do go through all our food packets at Commissary pick-ups to eliminate extra weight and packaging like cardboard to reduce weight. But we try to keep and eat the main menu items to maintain Philmont’s balanced diet over the 10-day period. There are some meals we just don’t like but try to force them down anyway.
Our treks are in the high 20s and we bag a lot of peaks, so our Scouts are always famished so everything is completely consumed. We check the Swap Boxes for extra items to enhance some meals and keep hunger at bay.Jul 26, 2019 at 9:34 am #3603514
@rcaffinLocale: Wollemi & Kosciusko NPs, Europe
Just a thought: over a 10 day walk you could eat just about any diet you like, as long as you got enough calories. Even a somewhat unbalanced diet over that short period would do not harm imho.
So why eat things you don’t like? Skip the ideology.
CheersJul 26, 2019 at 12:33 pm #3603527
James ABPL Member
Just back from my first trek at Philmont.
One misconception is that you need to put something in the swap box in order to take something out. Not true! Take what you want and dump what you don’t. Check out the box first thing when you get into camp. Then as other crews drop things off, check it again later. We found some real gems like Pop-Tarts, which the guys snagged quickly!
We did not ever cook breakfast in order to save time. We did make cold oatmeal right in the packets a couple times. You really do want to minimize the time you spend in camp in the mornings. Getting caught in an afternoon thunderstorm is not fun, so get the miles in during the AM hours.
I weight about 175 and definitely needed to eat everything Philmont gave us and then add a few snacks each day from swap boxes in order to be full.
Peanuts! No matter how much you may love peanuts, you will get tired of them, I promise.
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