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lighting esbits… something better than a mini-bic
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Aug 5, 2022 at 4:46 pm #3756656
For the last 10 years or so I have been using esbits. I typically start them using a mini-bic (either shave a bit of the tablet or using a bit of hand sanitizer to ease the starting). Â In the last year I have had two failures. The first was my fingers were too cold to work the lighter. The second time the sparking wheel wouldn’t rotate. I always have some stormproof matches in my emergency kit, so it wasn’t a problem… but when something happened more than once I start to wonder if there is a better alternative?
Aug 5, 2022 at 5:24 pm #3756666These are pretty good for starting fires.
1.3 ounces
The torch flame is fairly small. They also have some that are bigger and heavier.
Aug 5, 2022 at 6:57 pm #3756672Be warned – those “turbo” torch lighters aren’t allowed on carry-on bags on flights (but, like Victorinox Classics, they have to notice them). No butane lighters are allowed in checked bags unless properly secured in a TSA-approved case. Alas, the Colibri Tranzpack TSA was $50 a decade ago and doesn’t appear to be available anymore.
But, yes, I’d expect them to be considerably better at igniting Esbit quickly.
And, as a bit of emergency kit, I’d prefer them if I needed to get some wet wood burning.
Aug 5, 2022 at 9:47 pm #3756678Caveat: the reliability of pressurized lighters will start to decrease at altitudes above 9,000 feet or so.
I discarded a mini bic in favor of the Bic Classic. Way more reliable, and the Classic has been in the kits of high altitude mountaineers for decades.
I always carry a backup emergency fire kit that still works when it’s been submersed in water: Tinder Quik tabs + Firesteel. Half a TQ tab (ignited by the Firesteel) gets an Esbit tab going just fine.
Aug 5, 2022 at 10:55 pm #3756679I don’t need a mini blast torch that makes lighting ease. Â Nor am I looking for guarantee to work when submerged / worse conditions. I always carry emergency fire-starting kit which survives being submerge. What I am looking for is the easy 80% solution (when it’s not an emergency): Â reliable, 1 hand operation, works 0-14k ft. Â sounds like returning to the normal bic might be the answer.
Aug 6, 2022 at 3:13 am #3756686For years I’ve taken a dropper bottle of ethanol fuel with me when using Esbit. A few drops onto the tab then spark it up. Gets it going. A 5 ml bottle lasts more than a weekend trip, a 20 ml for a 2 week trip. Using 3 tabs a day.
Aug 6, 2022 at 7:51 am #3756690Yeah, if you want to go over 10K feet then you don’t want a piezo lighter
Those mini torch lighters aren’t really a “blast torch”. There are similar lighters that are bigger and are more of a blast torch. That lighter I linked to is a compromise between a blast torch and a bic lighter.
Aug 6, 2022 at 11:54 am #3756694If its chilly out, forget the mini bic lighter. I use a full size bic lighter now.. had the cold finger problem once.. and that was it.
Aug 6, 2022 at 3:00 pm #3756708sort of a tangent.  for emergency lighting what do people use?  I see Ryan using firesteel.  I bring  a spark-lite and some waterproof matches.
Aug 6, 2022 at 4:29 pm #3756718I bring two lighters
Aug 6, 2022 at 8:38 pm #3756728I have a small ferro rod and striker. Works every time i have used it… not to light an esbit tab though… I do carry a few waterproof matches also. Redundant yes.. but they all do not weigh much.. and in winter time I MIGHT need a fire and i most likely definitely need to get my stove lit to melt snow for water..
Aug 6, 2022 at 9:00 pm #3756729Light my fire (fire steel). Â It takes practice but you can light Esbit with fire ateel.
Aug 7, 2022 at 4:31 am #3756734Aug 7, 2022 at 6:32 am #3756737Never seen the BIC EZ Reach before. Â It is a piezo ignition?
Aug 7, 2022 at 12:04 pm #3756756@ Mark
In winter, I bring three sources of ignition: firesteel, matches, and a lighter. With no moving parts and the ability to work in wet weather, the firesteel is probably the most reliable source. A Bic that is empty of butane will throw sparks but not as many as a firesteel. The firesteel does depend on my skill in making sparks and in finding dry tinder. In summer, two lighters.
This has been a very interesting thread. Now I am going try my firesteel on esbit.
Aug 7, 2022 at 12:25 pm #3756758I was never able to get esbits started directly with firesteel. Â I will be impressed if you can. Â I would start tinder (or hand sanitizer) which would start the esbits. I switched several years ago from fire steel to spark-lite because I wanted one hand operations. Â With the mini-bic I never had a failure due to fuel… it was always the sparking wheel locking up.
Aug 8, 2022 at 5:21 am #3756787I assume you have removed the shiney “ safety strip” from around the wheel?
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