Lightest stoves that can handle stormy weather?

What size pot do you use? I have a set-up for esbit using a Toaks Light 650. Made it this week. Has a full length pot windscreen/pot support. Uses a BGET esbit tray/stove.

Have you used a windbreak with your Esbit stove? I’ve not had any problems with my esbit stove, when I use a windbreak.

Caldera Cone with esbit ?

I have found that Caldera cone setups do really well in windy situations. Trail Designs produce several different configurations for various sized pots. I would not recommend the Foster beer can model as it is difficult to extract the can from the cone safely until the tab has burned out or has been blown out. Storm proof matches will light Esbits on the first try almost always using this system. The cones have the added benefit of burning much hotter and leaving less gummy residue on the pots making clean up easier.

I’m using a BP Firelite(?) 550ml pot, I think it’s not available anymore though.
I used it with a gram cracker stove and cheap Ti-foil windscreen.

Thinking about, the problem usually is that I cannot reach the Esbit block with a normal lighter through the windscreen. So I have to remove it when igniting.

I guess that the solution would be either a longer lighter, one of these jets, or windproof/long matches.
Does anyone have experience with this?

I do have a caldera cone that I’m sometimes using as well, but I think the problem is the same.
I also wondered what the lightest closed stoves such as the reactor design, are.

I’ll try and do a short video of the pot and windscreen on Mon. It’s the coolest thing since sliced bread. I’m going to be using it in one week when I’m out and about going solo.

In stormy weather I cook in the comfort of my tent. Lots of light weight stoves that are available to do that. I plan my meals accordingly. Snickers and Pop tarts make for a good in-tent meal on a stormy day.

+another for a Caldera  cone.

To light Esbit, I carry a dropper bottle of alcohol.   20ml lasts me 2 weeks backpacking. Been doing it for 5 years+

Drip a few drops of alcohol onto the Esbit tab and light.    Wait a couple seconds,  until the tab takes, then place pot in cone.

I think the lightest Windburner style stove is the smallest (1L) MSR Reactor.  The MSR Windburner is a couple of ounces heavier but I think it offers the advantage of being able to light the stove with the pot attached, though am not 100% sure as I own neither.

I have hiked with a few who use the Reactor though. It’s a heavy, but blazing fast stove in the wind.

And yet one more for Caldera Cones. Not only wind proof but also the most heat efficient ESBIT stove.

My Trail Designs Sidewinder ti stove can use ESBIT, alcohol or wood (with the Inferno insert).

For ESBIT I feel the smaller Caldera Cones are best. Mine uses a 3 cup pot (absolutely not an inefficient  mug) and is about the maximum size for ESBT efficiency. *Plus I use a BGET tablet holder to catch the liquid runoff so it burns and greatly increases burn time.

P.S. So yes, Caldera Cones are the lightest windproof stoves  and being so light means that for very windy conditions you must “nail down” your Caldera Cone with skinny shepherd’s hook stakes through the lowest cone slots.

I’ll be the lone wolf who advocates for my Jetboil Sol Ti.  Yes, it’s heavier, but I think the increased efficiency evens things out.  If it’s windy, I’ll use rocks, sticks, the leeward side of the tent or whatever to further block wind.

Like Dan I cook inside my tent. When there is a 100 kph snow storm outside, what else can one do?
Anyhow, my V3 winter stove with small ply base board weighs 108 g complete. Add windscreen, which I never do without, and canister.

The weather was a bit milder in this photo, but windy and sub-zero. Actually, it was sub-zero for much of the trip.

Cheers

The Trangia 25 is a proven fowl weather stove/kit. Use the lower base, windscreen/sheild center section and the smallest 500ml bowl. I designed an esbit insert for the kit that works extremely well. 14gr tablet will boil 500ml in 5.5 min. The kettle can also be used efficiently. Extremely stable in stormy weather.

I created this kit for a BPL member and is testing it this spring/summer

Here is another video of it in action:

Thank’s guys, that’s a lot of options already! Nice to hear what others are using

Christoph, does the Trangia 25 set-up look too heavy for you?

BPL testing of yore rated the Snowpeak Gigapower with some of the lowest emissions of canister stoves of the time.  I don’t hesitate to use it in floorless mids or a vestibule in storms.

I’ll be curious to see how MSR’s latest iteration of the Pocket Rocket (MK III – deluxe) will do in wind. It has a burner head nearly identical to the Soto Windmaster.

YouTube keeps directing me to plenty of MSR  Pocket rocket deluxe reviews – side by side performance comparisons  with other stoves

Basically, ok, but not as good as the Soto Windmaster it is almost a copy of.  The flame gap is bigger on the MSR.

Light weight remote with Ti windscreen/pot support and a Toaks Light 650 pot. The burner simmers nicely.

Yeah, a windscreen usually does it. Properly mounted, maybe supported by rocks, they seem to be the key to a storm proof burner. You should have them fairly tight, about a quarter inch from the pot (5-10mm) and a fairly tight to the ground with only an air inlet for the stove. Esbit has the lightest stove, but perhaps a 3oz canister stove has it beat for efficiency. (Esbit only puts out about 14000-15000BTU whereas butane’ish fuels put out about 21000BTU. It sort-of depends on your trip length, speed of heating, cooking needs.)

I nicknamed this pot skirt Kling-On. It holds firmly to the pot, full length of a Toaks Light 650ml pot. It has 4 verticle ribs that act as heat exchange fins and keep the windscreen an ideal spacing from pot to allow exhausting gases to pass close to the pot. The pot has handles. Slide skirt onto pot all the way up to rim of pot, place onto brs 3000 canister stove, turn gas on and light.

Weather is too miserable to make a video.

Clever, that one.

Cheers