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Issue with quilt

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PostedAug 9, 2016 at 7:36 am

Hi all,

I recently received my new quilt (from Hammock Gear), and have a bit of an issue!

During the night all of the down collects at the bottom of the baffles, leaving me bloody cold! I’ve been testing it indoors before taking it camping, so I can hold it up to the light and see the top of the quilt is completely empty of down.

Is this a design issue? or is it “normal” for quilts? I can’t see how it will ever keep me warm enough at the quilt’s rating.

Matthew / BPL Moderator
PostedAug 9, 2016 at 7:52 am

I use a 20° HG Burrow and don’t have that problem despite turning over many times each night. Two thoughts:

  • Have you been fluffing your quilt after unpacking it? You need to loft up the down. I grab it by both bottom seams near the head end and down by the footbox and let it drop downwards and give it a good shake. This fluffs the down up and moves it to the center of my quilt above my body.
  • Are you tucking the quilt in tightly around you? Don’t. This tip comes from Jacks r’ Better when I purchased my son’s Sierra Snivler. He said many people pULA the quilt very tight around them which compacts the down and leads to it settling towards the sides.

I can can see how vertical baffles would address your issue but again, I’ve never been cold with my horizontal baffles (nor has my son) in weather in the high 20°s with wind and moisture.

PostedAug 9, 2016 at 7:58 am

Hi! I’ve the exact same quilt (with a token amount of overfill. 1oz IIRC).

Quilt is fluffed. I store it very loosely packed, and give it a few hours laid out before sleeping under it.

I don’t THINK I’m tucking it in tight. I’ll try again and pay closer attention.

I thought it was perhaps my body shape. I’m a little bit cuddly :) and I’m a side sleeper. Not sure if these contribute to the issue.

James holden BPL Member
PostedAug 9, 2016 at 10:34 am

2 threads you should read …

[UPDATE] HG Burrow 20° – Not a happy camper from Ultralight

https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/enlightened-equipment-enigma-950/

seems like the recommended “solution” is to get quilts with overstuff …

note that some quilts such as my old EE karo baffle revelation doesnt have these issues … and vertical baffle commercial sleeping bags have “flow gates” to again negate the issue … also horizontal baffle sleeping bags tend to have a baffle dividing the bag in half, reducing the issue

perhaps you can talk to HG into sending it back for more overstuff?

being a larger side sleeper its possible that you also need a wider quilt … you may simply be too large for the quilt if its stretching enough to move the down

;)

 

 

 

PostedAug 9, 2016 at 12:14 pm

Mo,

I have the same problem with one of my sleeping bags.  Company advertises that design allows for adjustment of down and warmth.

 

I switched to a bag that has baffles preventing the down from shifting to the bottom of the tubes.  Much warmer.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedAug 9, 2016 at 2:02 pm

I have the same problem with a quilt I made

Overstuffing helps.  Horizontal baffle in each vertical baffle helps.  Not that that helps you.

Before using each night, “fold” the quilt in half and hold onto it along the edges and shake it back and forth a few times so the down goes into the middle.  The quilt should be okay for that night.  Verify this by looking through the light to see you’ve moved the down to the middle.

Miner BPL Member
PostedAug 9, 2016 at 3:05 pm

Have the same problem with the 40f version of their quilt when sleeping on my side.  I shake all the down to the center before going to bed.  If it’s a cold night, I may do so again in middle of night.  I try not to flip sides as often as a result.  Since this is my warm weather quilt, I accept it.  Especially considering the excellent price point I got it for.  Would be an issue with my 20f, so I’m glad it’s from somewhere else.

That said, I once found the temperature dropped down to 24F that was not forecast.  Wore my clothes to bed and stayed warm enough to sleep.  I did redistribute the down 3 times that night.  But not bad for a 40f quilt.

PostedAug 9, 2016 at 5:17 pm

Thanks for the input. Not too sure what to do next. I’ll contact HG, but I’m in Australia so returns might be an issue.

FYI my quilt is Long and Wide, with 1oz overfill.

The night I tested it it was 11degC (52f). The cold spot/s were so big it was too cold to sleep. I can’t see how it would ever keep me warm @ 20f.

 

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedAug 9, 2016 at 5:34 pm

try shaking to middle for a couple trips

it’ll probably be totally usable

PostedAug 9, 2016 at 5:38 pm

I have had similar issues with quilts I made with horizontal baffles and it is partially remedied by over stuff. I went to adding small vertical baffles inside the horizontal baffles to prevent the down shifting to the edge but this is very time consuming. Eventually I switched to vertical baffles and I think it works much better and reports from users have been positive as well.

Remember the Hammock Gear quilts are primarily designed for hammock use where the quilt is cradled in the hammock, preventing down shift.

James holden BPL Member
PostedAug 11, 2016 at 9:56 pm

one thing to note is that synth quilts/bags do not have this issue

while for a 20F quilt, the weight savings of down are significant … for a 40F one they probably arent as much, not to mention the minimal amount of down might have issues filling some baffles more evenly … especially as the down gets dirty with enough use or with moisture in damp conditions

;)

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