How will Trail Designs stop this?

Hum … Aluminium pot … I wonder if those ‘grooves’ are simply a witness mark from the die used to shape the pot? Essentially zero depth. Could make sense.

Cheers

These bowls are made by the same company:

Dan – do those bowls have genuine ridges at the bottom? Sure looks like it.

Cheers

Sure does look like it. I snipped that photo from a youtube video.

Got this message from the seller:

Hello, dear friend, as our product is purely handmade, it takes about 7 days to prepare the goods. Please wait patiently,thank you

China says my order has been shipped today, China Post Air Mail. Let you know when it arrives.

Nice service so far.

I have had nothing but good experience through ali express.  some things take a while to get here but the service is great.  Several times things have not fit properly and we have full refunds, it has been great.

Actually when ordering a Caldera Cone from Traildesigns you can specify which stove you want, the 10-12 or the Kojin. I use the 10-12 and cone setup with an Evernew 900 pot when boiling for 2 people. The Kojin I use for solo trips with the cone and Evernew Pasta Pot small. Rand has been awesome to work with when I decided to change the pot setup after I had already ordered. That is a great advantage of working with a small shop that can easily accommodate order changes.

As for patenting windscreens/cones, the old ZenStoves website has a lengthy article on the development history of windscreens/cones: http://zenstoves.net/PotStands.htm

Package is moving well:

our item has been processed through our facility in ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS) at 7:36 pm on November 15, 2018.

All this is really sad. At least I feel so. But I think it is irrational me.

I got to know folks at those cottage companies. I talked to them personally. I really really value their inventions and I’m happy to pay for them.

Tim at EE got me into quilts. I still use my first quilt and it’s live and kicking like a beast. Amazing piece of gear. Now I see that quilts are made by Chinese manufacturers. Also available from aliexpress. As far as I can afford quality products of the companies I had a pleasure to purchase from, I will never buy these items from AE. Same goes for TD – I have 2 Sidewinders which are heavily used. I think I’m the first who had their cone in Israel.

But if I was a newcomer into all this stuff, without those relations developed with the actual inventors… God knows if I would order from AE if that was much cheaper.

Package arrived today. Excellent craftsmanship, am well pleased with delivery and product. No stopping China, the UK and Japan ;)

So, what about those concentric circles at the bottom ?

Franco, I ordered the kit behind door #1 :-)  It has the Toaks 900ml pot.

No stopping China, the UK and Japan ;)

Really? Try telling your President that……I thought we were going to win BIG….

Really? Try telling your President that…

I did, he bought the kit with the aluminum pot.

Fear not, the concentric ringed pots are available in Heaven :-)

Can’t stop it :-)

Ah, but Dan, this has no patent.

Ah, but Dan, this has no patent.

In that case, we can gear up to make them by the thousands/millions

I’ll be making some kits up that look similar to yours. Thanks for the ideas 

Ah but Dan, it does have copyright.

Ah but Dan, it does have copyright.

Patents, copyrights………they don’t matter ……..Thanks for the ideas 

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stent: a tubular support placed temporarily inside a blood vessel, canal, or duct to aid healing or relieve an obstruction.

I’m going to hazard a guess that in this case, it is a Ti stake or peg, originally used here horizontally to support the pot; but discontinued with redesign of the cone. In other words, now abstent.

“In other words, now” abstent “