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Hollow fiber water filters slowing down – am I doing it wrong?

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Rebecca 510 BPL Member
PostedOct 18, 2019 at 6:20 pm

First it was a Sawyer Mini, which was pretty good for the first few trips but then started noticeably slowing, and kept on slowing until it became quite annoyingly slow. No amount of backflushing speeds it up.

Then the BeFree, which started out super fast, but much more quickly progressed to super slow. I recently spent a solid 15 or 20 minutes vigorously swishing and shaking it, and maybe got a little carried away because I see that a couple of the fibers got kinked during the process… Still super slow.

I never used them in glacial melt. The water I used with the BeFree ranged from crystal-clear to pretty good, and the Sawyer was used in some greenish lakes. I do a fair number of trips where the water options aren’t perfect,so if the answer is “only use these filters in beautiful clear water,” I’ll have to give up on them.

I’ve wondered if I need to clean them more often. Have tended to do it when the slowing was noticeable.

Also wonder if I could have done long-term harm to my Sawyer with too much pressure. I used it with soda bottles and was pretty aggressive with squeezing them.

I found the Sawyer Mini a bit slow to start with and am thinking of trying one of the other Sawyer models… but not if it’s just going to to clog up anyhow.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

PostedOct 18, 2019 at 6:23 pm

Bang the sawyer on a padded hard surface. Then re-back flush. Will see lots more dirt come out. This added step will help but no panacea.

PostedOct 18, 2019 at 8:26 pm

Try soaking in vinegar, some water can cause mineral deposits that can clog the pores and vinegar can help dissolve/loosen them.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedOct 18, 2019 at 9:49 pm

yeah, vinegar, there are previous threads about this.  Maybe warm vinegar?  Maybe let it soak for a while.

whatever you do, if you have hard water don’t put bleach in it and backflush filter, that will cause mineral deposits

Monty Montana BPL Member
PostedOct 19, 2019 at 2:30 am

Rebecca, mineral deposits will occur from stream, lake or tap water…that’s what clogs up the membrane most of the time.  Ya, sure, you followed the cleaning directions to the “T”, and the darn thing kept getting slower and slower.  That’s because the cleaning water was chock full of dissolved minerals, which then crystallized after the filter began to dry out, clogging up the membrane.

As mentioned above, use vinegar:  place your filter in a bowl of distilled water and maybe a capfull of vinegar overnight to cause the crystallization to go back into solution, then go through your usual procedure of cleaning and filter a qt. or so of DISTILLED water through it.  That should do it!

Happy trails.

PostedOct 19, 2019 at 3:26 am

Sawyer Mini’s do not have the capcity to filter a lot of water.  The 100,000 gallon specification is only under controlled conditions and do not represent real world situations.  It is really Marketing spin.  Since the filter is rated at 0.1 micron, this is far below the visible level so water clarity is not a great indicater of actual particulate loading.  There is a substantial amount of field date indicating that the Mini (as well as the BeFree) are not robust filtration systems.  The regular Sawyer Squeeze has about an order of magnitude more filter area than the Mini and is much more robust.  My 2 cent.

PostedOct 19, 2019 at 5:22 am

When I made a pump filter using the Sawyer Mini, there were several threads here describing what the OP has mentioned.  My trips were only for a few weeks, during which made sure the Mini did not dry out.  So just accepted the need to shell out $20 to pick one up at Walmart before each trip.  For the convenience and light weight (less than half the weight of other pump filters), thought it was on balance a good deal.  So convenient that never got around to trying a slightly heavier Platy Gravityworks cartridge instead of the Mini.

Now Monty explains the use of vinegar and distilled water before backflushing.   Will try it.  Thanks.

JCH BPL Member
PostedOct 19, 2019 at 1:23 pm

Ditched my Sawyer Mini quickly for all the reasons stated above.  Meanwhile my Sawyer Squeeze keeps on trucking.  I made a DIY gravity system incorporating the Squeeze, then transitioned to the black filter that comes in the blue Sawyer bottle.  Both filters have performed admirably for quite some time.  I like the black filter best as it has nipple connections thus avoiding the need for threaded adapters.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedOct 19, 2019 at 2:39 pm

I think that if you put the filter in a bowl of vinegar water it won’t get into the hollow fibers

If you backflush with a syringe of vinegar water, maybe a couple syringes worth to make sure all the fibers are saturated with the vinegar water, then set the filter on a table with the input side up, the vinegar water will stay surrounding all the fibers.  Let it sit for a while.  Maybe repeat a few times.  Then backflush with clear water to remove all the vinegar.

Jenny A BPL Member
PostedOct 19, 2019 at 5:25 pm

These are very helpful thoughts and suggestions.  I love the speed and ease of use of the hollow fiber tube filters, but have also experienced “failures” with every single model I have tried (3 now) despite backflushing religiously and following instructions.  I will be trying the vinegar cure with a slowing-down BeFree this winter in hopes of dissolving some of those cloggy minerals.  This is a good thread.

Jerry Adams BPL Member
PostedOct 20, 2019 at 4:18 am

If you have hard water do not put bleach in it when you backflush

Some people have done that to disinfect it, but then it clogs up the filter

I don’t know about the amount of chlorine in drinking water

I’ve always used Portland city water to backflush Squeeze.  Never had a problem.  I’ve used it for 6 years, maybe 200 days.

PostedOct 20, 2019 at 7:30 pm

Recently became tempted to try squeeze filters again after a poor initial experience 5 years ago.  Seems like nothing has changed.  I hope Aquamire can forgive my infidelity.

obx hiker BPL Member
PostedOct 21, 2019 at 1:15 am

There was a thread awhile back about using CLR on the befree.. CLR for BeFree

I checked my filter before a recent trip and it was a little slow and I had some CLR at hand so I used the CLR method except I’m pretty sure I used an ounce to a quart and instead of putting the filter in a cup I just filled the regular reservoir with a quart of water to an ounce of CLR and it opened up the filter to good as new. It also passed the integrity test..

Used it on a six day trip in an area frequented by glaciers  ;)  and no troubles at all..

I’m sure someone versed in the chemistry of water could chime in and explain the problems with hard water and bleach and calcium deposits etc. This seems to be the root of the hollow fiber clogging problems.

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